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May 22, 2009
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Tbh i dont think i would want that sort of power, i mean they are 80bhp standard i would probs be happy with about 110bhp! I not been driving for to long so i dont want to push it lol!

Sorry typed it out wrong - you can get about 140bhp out of the pd100! so your prob look @ about 110 bhp out of the 1.4tdi !

as for insurance i searched on - go compare! it just happened that egg was cheapest!
 

Dazz 1989

XBOX Live = DazzAbell89
Jan 28, 2010
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Cannock
Is it the 100bhp or 84bhp 1.4?

Bloody daylight robbery mate.

Its the 84bhp one, but cuz i have got the ZR throttle body and the derestricted cabble its pushin the 100bhp or so im told. Good car but not good on the mpg side of things. Only getting about 30 mpg = not good enough.
 
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great_kahn

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Nov 19, 2009
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Leicestershire
Its the 84bhp one, but cuz i have got the ZR throttle body and the derestricted cabble its pushin the 100bhp or so im told. Good car but not good on the mpg side of things. Only getting about 30 mpg = not good enough.

30 mpg is very low, unless your thrashing it everywhere, or doing really short trips. I would suggest your car might be due a good service, could also be lamda sensor fault etc. I used to get 36-38mpg.
 

krussel

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Oct 31, 2008
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Good thread. I cant believe what you young'uns are paying for insurance :wtf:

I would have the thought the 1.4 tdi would feel more livley than your 25 in the mid-range which is prob what you will end up using the most in every day driving. Wont sound as nice though :(

The 1.9 tdi has a big punch and grin factor but is it worth over £3k on insurance :confused: prob not.

best of luck
 

great_kahn

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Nov 19, 2009
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Good thread. I cant believe what you young'uns are paying for insurance :wtf:

I would have the thought the 1.4 tdi would feel more livley than your 25 in the mid-range which is prob what you will end up using the most in every day driving. Wont sound as nice though :(

The 1.9 tdi has a big punch and grin factor but is it worth over £3k on insurance :confused: prob not.

best of luck

The 1.4 k series is a very rev hungry engine, 16v, twin cam, they used it in caterhams, and the 1.8 version in the elise. Belting it up to 7000rpm its a fun little engine, but it has **** all low down :lol:

I think personally, he should stick with the 25 for now, and wait until he can afford a 1.9tdi 130.
 

krussel

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Oct 31, 2008
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Hertforshire
The 1.4 k series is a very rev hungry engine, 16v, twin cam, they used it in caterhams, and the 1.8 version in the elise. Belting it up to 7000rpm its a fun little engine, but it has **** all low down :lol:

I think personally, he should stick with the 25 for now, and wait until he can afford a 1.9tdi 130.


Thats good advice as the 130 does have something in the 30-70 mph field which is worth the wait if he can get the insurance down a grand or so. Trouble is you know what its like when you get "wanna new car" fever. ;)

Yep the 1.4 k series can be a belter in the right car, my sis had a gti Rover metro from new on a P reg and the thing just flew. Just dont mention head gaskets though :cry:
 

great_kahn

Spooge
Nov 19, 2009
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Leicestershire
Thats good advice as the 130 does have something in the 30-70 mph field which is worth the wait if he can get the insurance down a grand or so. Trouble is you know what its like when you get "wanna new car" fever. ;)

Yep the 1.4 k series can be a belter in the right car, my sis had a gti Rover metro from new on a P reg and the thing just flew. Just dont mention head gaskets though :cry:

Yup head gasket failure finished mine off :lol:

Every engine has its flaws, hopefully the the chinese have got it sorted, they started by changing the name to N series :D
 

great_kahn

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Nov 19, 2009
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Leicestershire
All been sorted with the new Landrover (BMW) designed MLS headgasket

MLS gasket improves the situation, but its not a cure. They can still fail. The problem is that the engine uses 10 really long bolts to hold the engine under compresssion, however, this method doesnt give the same compression load as a more conventional design, this is made worse on the 1.8 engines where the block is less stiff. So the head can move around on top on the block, MLS gasket can compensate for this. Then there is problems with shitty cooling system they fitted, liner heights, piss poor assembly standards etc etc.

It was a very advanced lightweight engine, perhaps too advanced for cheap mass production.
 

Dazz 1989

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Jan 28, 2010
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Cannock
30 mpg is very low, unless your thrashing it everywhere, or doing really short trips. I would suggest your car might be due a good service, could also be lamda sensor fault etc. I used to get 36-38mpg.

Well at the minute my exhaust is broken, i have got a new one just waiting to fit it lol, yeah i only do short trips, to work, tesco's mates house etc...
 

Dazz 1989

XBOX Live = DazzAbell89
Jan 28, 2010
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0
Cannock
The 1.4 k series is a very rev hungry engine, 16v, twin cam, they used it in caterhams, and the 1.8 version in the elise. Belting it up to 7000rpm its a fun little engine, but it has **** all low down :lol:

I think personally, he should stick with the 25 for now, and wait until he can afford a 1.9tdi 130.

yeah i agree got nothing bottom end but when i get to about 3500-4000rpm you do get a kick where it winds up lol.
 

Dazz 1989

XBOX Live = DazzAbell89
Jan 28, 2010
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Cannock
Thats good advice as the 130 does have something in the 30-70 mph field which is worth the wait if he can get the insurance down a grand or so. Trouble is you know what its like when you get "wanna new car" fever. ;)

Yep the 1.4 k series can be a belter in the right car, my sis had a gti Rover metro from new on a P reg and the thing just flew. Just dont mention head gaskets though :cry:

Yeah i got the "Wanna new car" fever i mean been thinking about getting rid of the rover for ages but not been 100% what to get i mean was going for a 106 then a classic mini then a Saxo then a ibiza. think i made the right choice of car now tho!

I have had no probs with head gasket, as long as you don't thrash from cold and keep it serviced they can last for ages, but it is always in the back of my mind.
 
Dec 3, 2009
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do a quote on elephant for a 1.9 TDi 100, add 2 named drivers who have no claims, crashes or fines and have been driving over 15 years... make their names and dateofbirth up!
then see what the quote comes out at

when you actually take the policy out ring around your family...mum, dad, granny, grandad, aunty, uncle, older cousins... even next door neighbour or friends parents!
it doesn't matter if they never drive the car, but each driver knocks about 1k off the insurance
 

krussel

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Oct 31, 2008
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Hertforshire
Another thing you may wish to consider is the reg change in March. This will mean more Ibiza’s traded and a better chance to find a decent 1.4 Tdi. Also this will give you another couple of months to save for the insurance.

One of the best things about the MK4 is that the design was sports for all the models and theres really not a lot of visual difference. A second hand set of 17” FR or Cupra wheels and a few non cost mods like de-badging and running strip removal can really help..
Performance upgrades and remaps will of course hit you on the insurance pocket but can come later when you have the cash.
 

Dazz 1989

XBOX Live = DazzAbell89
Jan 28, 2010
169
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Cannock
Another thing you may wish to consider is the reg change in March. This will mean more Ibiza’s traded and a better chance to find a decent 1.4 Tdi. Also this will give you another couple of months to save for the insurance.

One of the best things about the MK4 is that the design was sports for all the models and theres really not a lot of visual difference. A second hand set of 17” FR or Cupra wheels and a few non cost mods like de-badging and running strip removal can really help..
Performance upgrades and remaps will of course hit you on the insurance pocket but can come later when you have the cash.

Oh reg change i had forgot about that, but March is ages away lol i want a new car now lol!
Yeah thats what i have been thinking about the mk4 i mean there are things that can be changed to make it look more sporty! I love the FR wheels they are sooooo nice!
I am not rushing into buying a car just cuz i have got the money so i am sure if nothing crops soon i can wait until march!
 

great_kahn

Spooge
Nov 19, 2009
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Leicestershire
Oh reg change i had forgot about that, but March is ages away lol i want a new car now lol!
Yeah thats what i have been thinking about the mk4 i mean there are things that can be changed to make it look more sporty! I love the FR wheels they are sooooo nice!
I am not rushing into buying a car just cuz i have got the money so i am sure if nothing crops soon i can wait until march!

Your like Cartman waiting for nintendo wii to come out!!!
 
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