help me plz poor logs

harty190486

POWER!!!
Dec 29, 2008
349
0
staffordshire
i have a problem car was running very well stage 1 map fmic tip open cone filter oo7p and boost hoses running around 215 gs of air and loading was 191.7 throughout the rev range now i took the boost hoses of and put standard 1s back on still have tip etc changed my cone filter and the problem has started not hitting full load here are my logs
logs before removal

Code:
Sunday	22	November	2009	09:47:55						
1ML 906 032 A		1.8l R4/5VT         0001								
										
	Group A:	'002				Group B:	'020			
		RPM	Load	Inj. On Time	Mass Flow		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
	TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP	 CF	 CF	 CF	 CF
	0	2000	21.8	2.38	11.31	0.42	0	0	0	0
	0.91	2160	107.5	9.86	49.58	1.31	0	0	0	0
	1.73	2440	151.1	13.6	78.11	2.13	0	0	0	0
	2.53	2760	191.7	20.06	128.11	2.93	0	0	0	0
	3.33	3200	180.5	18.36	149.94	3.84	0	0	0	0
	4.24	3800	191.7	18.7	166.89	4.64	0	0	0	0
	5.04	4280	191.7	18.36	176.64	5.44	0	0	0	0
	5.95	4800	191.7	18.7	196.28	6.35	0	0	0	0
	6.75	5240	191.7	16.66	206.89	7.15	0	0	0	0
	7.55	5600	191.7	17.68	211.25	7.95	0	0	0	0
	8.37	5960	187.2	16.66	211.92	8.86	0	0	0	0
	9.26	6280	183.5	16.32	213.97	9.68	0	0	0	0
	10.06	6600	169.9	15.3	216	10.48	0	0	0	0
	10.97	6800	174.4	13.94	212.94	11.39	0	0	0	0

logs after removal


Code:
Sunday	31	January	2010	17:32:03						
1ML 906 032 A		1.8l R4/5VT      01 0001								
										
	Group A:	'002				Group B:	'115			
		RPM	Load	Inj. On Time	Mass Flow		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.
	TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar
	31.29	2080	115.8	10.88	49.78	31.69	2200	123.3	2260	1540
	32.07	2320	134.6	12.24	64.72	32.49	2480	145.9	2130	1800
	33	2640	171.4	17.68	98.5	33.4	2840	191.7	2120	2360
	33.8	3000	191.7	20.74	102.56	34.3	3240	185.7	2130	2160
	34.71	3400	183.5	19.72	115.81	35.11	3560	183.5	2160	2150
	35.61	3760	182.7	19.72	131	36.01	3920	180.5	2140	2140
	36.41	4120	185	19.72	143.11	36.83	4280	178.9	2130	2150
	37.22	4440	178.2	19.04	151.19	37.62	4600	178.2	2130	2120
	38.02	4760	177.4	19.04	163.11	38.42	4920	181.2	2130	2110
	38.94	5080	183.5	19.38	174.64	39.34	5240	180.5	2180	2140
	39.74	5400	183.5	19.38	191.83	40.14	5520	188.7	2210	2140
	40.54	5640	184.2	19.72	195.58	40.94	5800	185	2180	2160
	41.35	5920	188	20.06	202.33	41.85	6080	167.7	2170	2210
	42.25	6200	176.7	18.36	205.92	42.66	6280	170.7	2120	2150
	43.16	6400	173.7	18.36	205.42	43.56	6480	160.2	2030	2230
	43.98	6560	160.2	15.98	188.47	44.46	6440	12.8	980	1650

Code:
Sunday	31	January	2010	15:46:25				
1ML 906 032 A		1.8l R4/5VT      01 0001						
								
	Group A:	'002				Group B:	'031	
		RPM	Load	Inj. On Time	Mass Flow		Lambda Factor	Lambda Factor
	TIME					TIME		
Marker	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP		
	0.4	2120	83.5	7.82	39.42	0	0.992	1
	1.31	2400	114.3	10.88	59.72	0.82	1	1
	2.11	2800	162.4	16.66	102	1.71	0.969	0.922
	3.02	3600	191.7	21.42	133.22	2.53	0.899	0.867
	3.82	4480	186.5	19.72	160.81	3.42	0.867	0.852
	4.64	4280	183.5	19.72	147.86	4.22	0.828	0.836
	5.53	4720	182.7	19.38	167.58	5.13	0.828	0.836
	6.33	5160	182.7	19.38	180.47	5.93	0.828	0.836
	7.25	5600	184.2	19.72	197.03	6.75	0.836	0.836
	8.05	6000	172.2	18.36	203.94	7.65	0.821	0.836
	8.97	6400	168.4	17.68	207.56	8.46	0.836	0.836
	9.87	6720	157.1	16.32	188.03	9.45	0.844	0.836
	10.67	6720	29.3	1.7	9.33	10.27	0.797	0.836
	11.57	6000	15.8	1.7	15.39	11.09	0.821	0.914
i also have minimal correction factors due to fmic so i advanced the timing by 3 degrees via uni settings is this ok here are the logs



Code:
	Group A:	'003				Group B:	'020		
		RPM	Mass Flow	Load	Ign. Timing		Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization	Idle Stabilization
	TIME					TIME			
Marker	STAMP	/min	g/s	0%	°BTDC	STAMP	CF	CF	CF
	0.5	2040	46.08	91	17.3	0	0	0	0
	1.31	2240	56.97	94.5	13.5	0.9	0	0	0
	2.19	2480	77.69	99.6	12	1.81	0	0	0
	3.01	2760	101.89	98.8	2.3	2.61	0	0	0
	3.82	3040	106.25	100	6	3.42	0	0	0
	4.62	3360	116.81	100	9.8	4.22	0	0	0
	5.53	3680	124.92	100	12.8	5.02	0	0	0
	6.33	3920	139.97	100	14.3	5.93	0	0	0
	7.13	4200	140.53	100	15.8	6.73	0	0	0
	7.95	4480	151.03	100	16.5	7.53	0	0	0
	8.85	4760	165.25	100	16.5	8.45	0	0	0
	9.65	5040	175.36	100	16.5	9.25	0	0	0
	10.56	5280	186.92	100	16.5	10.06	0	0	0
	11.47	5560	194.44	100	18	10.96	0	0	0
	12.37	5840	199.06	100	17.3	11.97	0	0	0
	13.29	6080	202.33	99.6	18.8	12.88	0	0	0
	14.29	6280	203.78	100	21	13.77	0	0	3
	15.18	6480	202.97	99.2	19.5	14.78	3	3	3
	16	6640	174.33	51.4	21	15.6	3	3	2.3
	16.8	6760	181.64	98	20.3	16.4	2.3	3	2.3
	17.6	6760	151.31	40	3	17.2	2.3	2.3	2.3
 

james walker

cooling is the key people
May 24, 2007
5,121
2
retford notts
you say you swapped back to oem boost hoses?

what filter did you change to?

maybe retard the timing back in .75 increments and relog...
 

harty190486

POWER!!!
Dec 29, 2008
349
0
staffordshire
you say you swapped back to oem boost hoses?

what filter did you change to?

maybe retard the timing back in .75 increments and relog...

yeah back to oem hoses but still uprated tip, have gone for a pipercross dry foam filter mate, my n75 duty cycle looks a little low to me maybe on its way out what do people think, will try the timing tomorrow will just take it bk to normal and try that boost looks good though maybe boosting more than requested thats when is gets 191.7 after that the load tails of quite alot really dont know whats wrong with it, feels evil fast though
 

james walker

cooling is the key people
May 24, 2007
5,121
2
retford notts
too be honest mate, if it feels good and minimal correction factors, good maf readings, boost looks good i wouldnt worry, sometimes logs can create issues.

try the timing back, probably wont affect load.. whats your inlet temps like??
 

harty190486

POWER!!!
Dec 29, 2008
349
0
staffordshire
too be honest mate, if it feels good and minimal correction factors, good maf readings, boost looks good i wouldnt worry, sometimes logs can create issues.

try the timing back, probably wont affect load.. whats your inlet temps like??

inlet temps were around a constant 12degrees so quite low really will try the n75 and timing tomorrow and see what happens hopefully sort it like you say tho if it does feel good then leave it, its definatly quick pulls lenghts on a mates stage 2 s3
 

harty190486

POWER!!!
Dec 29, 2008
349
0
staffordshire
now sorted with updated map and she flies all thanks to JBS
Code:
Friday	5	February	2010	14:14:22						
1ML 906 032 A		1.8l R4/5VT      01 0001								
										
	Group A:	'002				Group B:	'115			
		RPM	Load	Inj. On Time	Mass Flow		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.
	TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar
	96	2400	98.5	9.18	52.36	95.6	2360	85	2270	1080
	96.82	2560	130.1	12.92	73.44	96.4	2480	112.8	2200	1430
	97.62	2760	172.9	18.02	105.69	97.22	2680	148.9	2230	1870
	98.51	3120	191.7	22.1	112.11	98.11	2960	191.7	2310	2540
	99.43	3440	191.7	20.74	130.67	98.93	3240	191.7	2310	2310
	100.23	3720	191.7	20.06	135.14	99.83	3560	191.7	2300	2300
	101.04	4000	191.7	20.06	144.5	100.63	3880	191.7	2290	2310
	101.84	4280	187.2	19.72	152.44	101.44	4160	191.7	2270	2270
	102.64	4560	185.7	19.72	161.58	102.24	4400	182.7	2270	2230
	103.46	4800	180.5	19.04	172.53	103.04	4680	190.2	2280	2210
	104.35	5080	191.7	20.06	184.97	103.95	4960	189.5	2280	2240
	105.27	5360	191.7	20.06	193.06	104.87	5240	191.7	2260	2230
	106.16	5560	176.7	18.7	196.53	105.67	5440	188	2270	2230
	106.98	5760	177.4	18.7	197.14	106.56	5640	175.9	2240	2270
	107.87	5960	172.9	18.02	197.14	107.47	5840	173.7	2230	2160
	108.69	6120	170.7	18.02	200.06	108.27	6040	170.7	2190	2150
	109.58	6320	162.4	17	200.14	109.09	6240	174.4	2160	2110
 

JBS Sales

Guest
now sorted with updated map and she flies all thanks to JBS
Code:
Friday	5	February	2010	14:14:22						
1ML 906 032 A		1.8l R4/5VT      01 0001								
										
	Group A:	'002				Group B:	'115			
		RPM	Load	Inj. On Time	Mass Flow		RPM	Load	Absolute Pres.	Absolute Pres.
	TIME					TIME				
Marker	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP	 /min	%	 mbar	 mbar
	96	2400	98.5	9.18	52.36	95.6	2360	85	2270	1080
	96.82	2560	130.1	12.92	73.44	96.4	2480	112.8	2200	1430
	97.62	2760	172.9	18.02	105.69	97.22	2680	148.9	2230	1870
	98.51	3120	191.7	22.1	112.11	98.11	2960	191.7	2310	2540
	99.43	3440	191.7	20.74	130.67	98.93	3240	191.7	2310	2310
	100.23	3720	191.7	20.06	135.14	99.83	3560	191.7	2300	2300
	101.04	4000	191.7	20.06	144.5	100.63	3880	191.7	2290	2310
	101.84	4280	187.2	19.72	152.44	101.44	4160	191.7	2270	2270
	102.64	4560	185.7	19.72	161.58	102.24	4400	182.7	2270	2230
	103.46	4800	180.5	19.04	172.53	103.04	4680	190.2	2280	2210
	104.35	5080	191.7	20.06	184.97	103.95	4960	189.5	2280	2240
	105.27	5360	191.7	20.06	193.06	104.87	5240	191.7	2260	2230
	106.16	5560	176.7	18.7	196.53	105.67	5440	188	2270	2230
	106.98	5760	177.4	18.7	197.14	106.56	5640	175.9	2240	2270
	107.87	5960	172.9	18.02	197.14	107.47	5840	173.7	2230	2160
	108.69	6120	170.7	18.02	200.06	108.27	6040	170.7	2190	2150
	109.58	6320	162.4	17	200.14	109.09	6240	174.4	2160	2110

Glad your happy :D
 

JBS Sales

Guest
JBS out of curiosity (as my APR map does the same) why does the load not stay at 191.7 throughout the rev range during WOT. Is it because specified load levels have been met.

Not quite , its a small change to the cylinder filling maps.

Nothing to worry about really , it just means in basic terms your not maintaining maximum cylinder filling for a set boost level.