driving in the rain ? (Traction & understeer)

[M20FES]

OK the leon handles pretty well in the dry although a little light on the front with some understeer.

In the rain its completely different. I have to pull away real slow or the traction control kicks in and goes mad to stop the wheels spinning and i get real bad understeer, even small bends at 20\30mph i can feel the front not turning in properly.

Anyone else had this. Maybe some polybushes, strut brace, and some decent all weather tyres might help.

 

[LEE69]

F1's here and i get very little flashing lights even gunning it

 

[M20FES]

F1's here and i get very little flashing lights even gunning it

are you talking about in the rain, cause i dont have that much of an issue in the dry ?

 

[LEE69]

Yes in the rain i have so much confidence in the car due to the tyres.

 

[M20FES]

Yes in the rain i have so much confidence in the car due to the tyres.

i drive mine with great caution in the wet as i have no confidence in it at all.
mine tyres are Pirelli Winter Ice Storm 225/45/R17 and have good tread left, which should be good enough for the rain.

 

[Shaunyboy]

Tyres are the most important thing on the car as thats the only thing in contact with the road, F1 teams spend ages sleceting and trying diffrent tyres, as its win or loose if they pick them wrong, its also upto the driver to pick them. Dont scrimp on tyres at all, 70mph and loss of traction or blowout could prove fatal. As said goodyear are decent tyres, ones i have tested are hankook ventus V12 evo, there probably one of the best tyres for the price, if you add a few more pounds, you can get some goodyears. Theres also toyo proxies. Also tried michelin pilot extalo sport 2 and can not fault them, wear rate is quite quick, but i never lacked confidence with them on, really they showed me that tyres worth a 100 + rather than nexen is money well spent. You have to try tyres out as its a personal prefrence, im geting hankooks allround when i sort the wheels, 77.20 each from camskill. ATM mine has nankangs on and the understeer is dreadfull, a poor driver could easily total the car its that bad.

 

[LEE69]

ones i have tested are hankook ventus V12 evo, there probably one of the best tyres for the price, if you add a few more pounds, you can get some goodyears. T

You had F1's as well?
Them ventus get good reviews.

 

[mjt]

winter tyres are worse than summer tyres in the wet.
the treads are ticker and as a result the water doesn't drain as quickly.

i found this out on a rwd bmw far too often

do you really need winter tyres? how often does it snow in shropshire?

 

[M20FES]

winter tyres are worse than summer tyres in the wet.
the treads are ticker and as a result the water doesn't drain as quickly.

i found this out on a rwd bmw far too often

do you really need winter tyres? how often does it snow in shropshire?

just what they came with mate, didnt put them on myself. I looking to upgrade to 18" alloys, so i wont be bothering to replace the current tyres on them wheels.

 

[godber225r]

I cant fault Pirelli p zero nero tyres myself, got them all round on my LCR and they are brilliant!

What sort of tyre pressures you on?? you could have way too much air in them too spin them up that easy?
an audi S3 upper strut brace helps too i reacon a very inexpensive item.

 

[Willie]

just what they came with mate, didnt put them on myself. I looking to upgrade to 18" alloys, so i wont be bothering to replace the current tyres on them wheels.

Why not keep the 17" for winter tyres and get 18" for summer tyres

 

[Shaunyboy]

You had F1's as well?
Them ventus get good reviews.

Yeh ventus are good tyres for the price, not really used goodyear tyres, may try them after the ventus though, they both seem to be good tyres for the prices they are and prove popular, whats the wear rate on the goodyears?

winter tyres are worse than summer tyres in the wet.
the treads are ticker and as a result the water doesn't drain as quickly.

i found this out on a rwd bmw far too often

do you really need winter tyres? how often does it snow in shropshire?

Winter isnt just snow, its adverse weather conditions, ice, slush, heavy rain, frost, cheap tyres only just work in the dry, in these conditions there an accident waiting to happen, im scrapping the nankangs on the leon not becuase of the name, its becuase i value my life and do quite a few miles, in 3 months ive cover over 8k. The pilots averaged 25k on the car and was 2.0mm when i sold it, they had been on from new, and it was a woman owner before me, thats impressive, but the minuet you put 182 french horses through them they wear quite fast. Still there absoloutly immence tyres

 

[Willie]

Yeh ventus are good tyres for the price, not really used goodyear tyres, may try them after the ventus though, they both seem to be good tyres for the prices they are and prove popular, whats the wear rate on the goodyears?

I find them very good but others don't.
Depends how you drive, if you drive like a tit get cheap tyres

 

[Shaunyboy]

I find them very good but others don't.
Depends how you drive, if you drive like a tit get cheap tyres

Back my saxo days after 3 gearboxes, it t ought me my lesson mate, after 20 - 30 a night in fuel, tyres, i thought maybe i should change my driving style, everyone does it, just if you learn.

Not tried toyo proxies yet, they seem to get mixed bag of reviews, mostly good like.

 

[LEE69]

whats the wear rate on the goodyears?

8k and some life left over the wear marks.

 

[Willie]

Back my saxo days after 3 gearboxes, it t ought me my lesson mate, after 20 - 30 a night in fuel, tyres, i thought maybe i should change my driving style, everyone does it, just if you learn.

Not tried toyo proxies yet, they seem to get mixed bag of reviews, mostly good like.

As you say, we've all been through it

 

[Shaunyboy]

As you say, we've all been through it

Yep you think your schumaker becuase you have a licence, most learn like i did, i learnt fast, wasnt a **** everywhere, but wheelspins etc. Ammount of drivers you see that drive so close to the car infron in the wet is shocking, it actually scares me, they think oh i got abs i wont crash, err yea you will, saw one the other week, 59 ford focus very close, van stops, whack. Compleate fools man, dont get me started on the morons the road is litterd with!

(excuse spelling, ive had a bad day and nearly took my hand off doing a gearbox )

 

[Willie]

Yep you think your schumaker becuase you have a licence, most learn like i did, i learnt fast, wasnt a **** everywhere, but wheelspins etc. Ammount of drivers you see that drive so close to the car infron in the wet is shocking, it actually scares me, they think oh i got abs i wont crash, err yea you will, saw one the other week, 59 ford focus very close, van stops, whack. Compleate fools man, dont get me started on the morons the road is litterd with!

(excuse spelling, ive had a bad day and nearly took my hand off doing a gearbox )

I got my hand battered in Thai boxing last night so know where your at just now

 

[Shaunyboy]

yeh i have about a 2mm wide gash probably length of the back of my hand and the gearbox stil needs putting in, was only dropped off at 3:30, by 3:45 i was pouring blood out everywhere so its currntly on a jack with no balljoints on looks like its been in a bad crash ha. Oh well need money some how.

 

[Adam R]

I cant fault Pirelli p zero nero tyres myself, got them all round on my LCR and they are brilliant!

What sort of tyre pressures you on?? you could have way too much air in them too spin them up that easy?
an audi S3 upper strut brace helps too i reacon a very inexpensive item.

P Zero Nero tyres where the worse rubber i have ever had on my car. utterly usless in the wet and in the dry they broke away far too quickly.

i now have ultra sassentas and cant fault them. well worth the £80 per tyre on 225/45/17