leon tdi 150 clutch

[Richy!!!]

I’m looking at getting my clutch changed on my 2004 Leon cupra tdi 150. Car has covered 45k miles and the clutch has started slipping from 3rd gear with a few passengers in. Its ok with just me and the mrs in the car but i dont think it will be long until it goes completely. Car has been mapped, but its not an aggressive map, just slightly increased the power from 3000 rpm onwards where on the standard map the torque backs off slightly so now the power is all throughout the rev range up to redline.

So..... would a new OEM clutch be up to the job with this sort of power or is it defo going to need a Sach's performance clutch? I dont drive the car hard, only a quick blast now and again. I've heard about changing to a SMF also, not bothered about the noise associated with this conversion. I wont be increasing the power any more than it is now in the future.

I know this has been asked before but with only a slight increase in power further up the rev range just wondered what you guys thought...

Thanks

Rich.

 

[mr_merc]

If your clutch is starting to slip, it's pretty clear that another standard one isn't the solution...or to put it another way; if a standard clutch was going to be fine with your map then you wouldn't be making this post cos you wouldn't have a problem!

How does that work?

I've got 300 lb/ft+ on an AmD map and I had a new Seat OEM clutch shortly before the map. I have driven the car respectably, but I certainly don't hang about and my clutch has done 10,000 miles+ mile and is fine (touch wood).

He has already said his clutch has done 45k miles, so if he only had the map done 5k miles ago, for argument's sake, that's 40k miles worth of 'non-mapped' wear already on the clutch.

 

[dervpower]

I'm in the exact same boat as you mate. However mine has done 80k...

Thing I find, I can get 2 standard clucthes fitted for teh price of a Saches one fitted. And really how long am i going to keep the car? Maybe for another 20,000 miles...

 

[Richy!!!]

I'm in the exact same boat as you mate. However mine has done 80k...

Thing I find, I can get 2 standard clucthes fitted for teh price of a Saches one fitted. And really how long am i going to keep the car? Maybe for another 20,000 miles...

This is what im trying to weigh up..... its all money!! Grrr

If you look at it price wise, for the cost of a performance clutch you could have 2 standard ones fitted! I'm not increasing the power anymore as im happy with it and tbh there are too many speed cameras and i really value my licence. The remap was to just get a bit more of a "ooooh" when driving it an i didnt want to spoil the MPG which is why i bought a derv in the first place.
But i do see the advantages of the uprated performance clutches. But an uprated one could also only last 45k miles... depends on the diving style.
But im only planning on keeping the car a few years then will upgrade to a newer model. So its just weighing it all up. Only had the car 2 months so its expense i could do without and like Mr_merc said, i dont know how the previous 3 owners treated the car in the past 43k miles.

 

[jonjay]

In my personal opinion if it isnt an aggressive map and you drive sensibility with some spirited driving then stick the the standard clutch.

If you will continue modding the car to get the most performance out of it then go with an uprated one.

 

[dervpower]

This is what im trying to weigh up..... its all money!! Grrr

If you look at it price wise, for the cost of a performance clutch you could have 2 standard ones fitted! I'm not increasing the power anymore as im happy with it and tbh there are too many speed cameras and i really value my licence. The remap was to just get a bit more of a "ooooh" when driving it an i didnt want to spoil the MPG which is why i bought a derv in the first place.
But i do see the advantages of the uprated performance clutches. But an uprated one could also only last 45k miles... depends on the diving style.
But im only planning on keeping the car a few years then will upgrade to a newer model. So its just weighing it all up. Only had the car 2 months so its expense i could do without and like Mr_merc said, i dont know how the previous 3 owners treated the car in the past 43k miles.

I know just what you mean mate! I did order an uprated one, then cancelled the order as i'm just not sure!!

I think tbh i'm just going to get a standard one, and drive a little bit better. Driving with a slipping clutch is certainly making me a better driver

Another point that was raised to me. If you wack a performance clutch in then this will feel quite different to a normal one, so many effect to resale value to normal people, if you see what i mean.

 

[flappy]

IMO from having both types of clutch, I would probably look into just changing the friction plate and use an OEM spring plate. This will give you extra bite from the friction plate with a higher coefficient of friction to the OEM version while retaining the pedal feel. This would also be cheaper than going whole Sachs clutch route.

 

[Husbandofstinky]

just changing the friction plate and use an OEM spring plate.

That is another option if you're saving the pennies. Ask Unclefester.

 

[UncleFester]

That is another option if you're saving the pennies. Ask Unclefester.

Allards friction disc and an OEM cover plate will work fine - however just be sure that the OEM dual mass flywheel isn't knackered too - those aren't particularly cheap.

I think the uprated friction disc is fine for a bit more power and it won't rattle at tickover

 

[Richy!!!]

IMO from having both types of clutch, I would probably look into just changing the friction plate and use an OEM spring plate. This will give you extra bite from the friction plate with a higher coefficient of friction to the OEM version while retaining the pedal feel. This would also be cheaper than going whole Sachs clutch route.

Hmmm.... whats the average price for this clutch change??? I'm very interested....
Are the bits easy to get?? Im based in Cannock in Staffordshire.

Rich.

 

[Husbandofstinky]

Should do it in three hours tops.

 

[skullmunki]

I have a stage 2 clutch and single mass flywheel....drives like a dream but sounds like a bag of spanners!

 

[Richy!!!]

If i was to go the route of the Allards friction disc and an OEM cover plate roughly what would this cost to do? I think that will be the route i will go to replace the clutch.

 

[flappy]

The bits are easy to get, I got mine through JBS, you will need a clutch release bearing and some Dot 4 or 5.1 fluid for bleading the system (if you do it yourself). I changed the whole clutch in a weekend