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B3NNO
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Budget tyres arent bad for small engined cars for example ive always had budgets on my Metro and Cinquecento but since having my Ibiza FR, im now using Toyo Proxies T1R's and my god what a difference they make!.. So much more grip and i paid around £65 per corner which isnt too bad for 17" wheels
Define 'budget'. Uniroyal for instance is the Continental budget brand but the Rainsport (2) tyre is really good, Maragoni are in the value tyre segment but I've found the Zeta Linea to be a very nice all-round tyre. There are some tyres that are simply good on most cars, the Continental Sports Contact range for instance, & If you look around forums for a specific mark you'll start to see tyres which are constantly recommended for that car.
Also not all branded tyres are good, if you've ever driven a Fiat Seicento on Dunlop SP2000 tyres in the wet you'll know this.
Also not all branded tyres are good, if you've ever driven a Fiat Seicento on Dunlop SP2000 tyres in the wet you'll know this.
LeekFR
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I had Toyo Proxes T1R all round, they did have good grip, but the fronts only lasted 6 months. I got some Yokohama Prada Spec II for the front and I find they have even more grip than the toyo's and seem to be wearing better. I wouldn't go for budget, you can buy 4 x 205 40 17 yoko's on ebay for just over £200, you just need to get them fitted by a cheap tyre monkey.
Budget tyres are OK for cheap small engined cars, 1.0, 1.2 l but for warm to hot-ish hatch then they are more likely to be "Ditch Finders" However I think people on here do reconmend Falkan 452s, Khumo KU 31s and Toyo T1-Rs that could be classed as budget tyres. People find them better than Hard Michelins, Bridgestones or Pirellis. I run T1-Rs on my Furby and can't fault them.
I had an old Metro and actually found Colway Remould tyres were better than budgets, (Debrica or Sava), My mother ran Colway All season tyres on her car. Her newer one had Dunlop SP 2000 on and were awefull in the wet, now she has Vredesteins which are much better.
I had an old Metro and actually found Colway Remould tyres were better than budgets, (Debrica or Sava), My mother ran Colway All season tyres on her car. Her newer one had Dunlop SP 2000 on and were awefull in the wet, now she has Vredesteins which are much better.
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Used T1R's in past and found them very good. Not very progressive. They grip or don't
It's nice to know when a tyre will let go.
We have Falken ZE012's on the front of FR and they're very good. Went for them as they not directional and to limit the already bad road noise of the 205/40/17's
The beemer is on Goodyears all round - Eagle F1's Asymmterics on rear are excellent and so far i've had 16k out of them which is good for me!
i've used cheap tyres....they are ok in dry but rubber compounds that are good in dry do not always perform in wet.
I came a cropper on some budget tyres about 7 years ago and won't risk it now.....Same as brakes tyres are saftey items. Your life. If you want to drive in a spirited manner
be prepared to pay the price.......
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Used T1R's in past and found them very good. Not very progressive. They grip or don't
It's nice to know when a tyre will let go.
We have Falken ZE012's on the front of FR and they're very good. Went for them as they not directional and to limit the already bad road noise of the 205/40/17's
The beemer is on Goodyears all round - Eagle F1's Asymmterics on rear are excellent and so far i've had 16k out of them which is good for me!
i've used cheap tyres....they are ok in dry but rubber compounds that are good in dry do not always perform in wet.
I came a cropper on some budget tyres about 7 years ago and won't risk it now.....Same as brakes tyres are saftey items. Your life. If you want to drive in a spirited manner
be prepared to pay the price.......
Ask your self this:
Do i really want to scrimp on the thing that keeps me in contact with the road?
Do i really want to scrimp on the thing that keeps me in contact with the road?
But also look around at what people are recommending, the top brands aren't always the best thing for you. What's the point in spending £75 a corner for Pirelli P Zero Nero if the £50 a corner Maragoni Zeta Linea are better for your car?
seriously mate pay the money, when i picked up my car it had a couple of makes on there called accelera alpha and scudo stunner, in the dry they where passable at best but in the wet they where downright dangerous,
I've now got 2x yokohama parada 2 (the garage put these on due to not being able to find toyos quick enough) on the front and still have toyo t1-rs on the rear and the differance is huge, the yoko's arent great in the wet but are still very very good. The toyos cost me £150 fully fitted and balanced and it is money well spent.
My lil 1.2 had firestones on and they where fine (only £60 a tyre) and my 1.4 100 had dunlop SP Sport Maxx and they where absolutely superb (but at a cost of £110 a tyre you would hope so
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I've now got 2x yokohama parada 2 (the garage put these on due to not being able to find toyos quick enough) on the front and still have toyo t1-rs on the rear and the differance is huge, the yoko's arent great in the wet but are still very very good. The toyos cost me £150 fully fitted and balanced and it is money well spent.
My lil 1.2 had firestones on and they where fine (only £60 a tyre) and my 1.4 100 had dunlop SP Sport Maxx and they where absolutely superb (but at a cost of £110 a tyre you would hope so
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techathy said:
Ah but Zero Neros an utter crap and are um comparable with anything, lack grip in the dry and under steer all over the place then cant displace any water when it gets wet so just aquaplane through a muddy puddle from a thimble.
If you have a Cupra running a stage 2 map with £23 you really need your head testing!
+1 Agree totally
Tyres and brakes are the two areas on the car I really wouldn't cheap out on, when things get hairy you need these to be as good as they can be, I'm not saying don't shop around for the best price but don't go for budget tyres just because it saves you £60 on a set, this extra cost could save you a lot of money and hassle in the long run when you pull up short of something you may otherwise have hit with cheapo rubber.
Yep your right there, so you would stick the same tyre from a Fiat Panda on to a Aston Martin?
The standards are a minimum required for your average car with average power, driven in a average kind of way not a Cuora with 200BHP
I sincerely hope im not on the other side of the road as you round the corner on a damp day when your giving it some heading down towards McDonalds
In all honesty if your tyre is the about the right dimensions & speed rating the tyres should do a okay job regardless of who made them, if you're not going to drive like a nutter that is. When you wander to far away from those specs you can quickly find the tyres are over or under whelmed by the engines ability & the cars mass.
I found PZNs are similar to Dunlop SP2000s & half worn Yokohama A536s in the wet. All are expensive tyres with worse performance than your better known off-brand.
Wilkinho
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cool cheers lads,
my car is an ibiza sport 100, so its only a 1.4 but as i have to drive all over the place for work, im thinking im def going to have a mid range tyre minimum. It's just the orginal Bridgestones it cam with is around £80 a tyre and was wondering if there are any other brands which are "as good". From what I can see from the thread, Toyo T1-R seems to be the tyre of choice....
my car is an ibiza sport 100, so its only a 1.4 but as i have to drive all over the place for work, im thinking im def going to have a mid range tyre minimum. It's just the orginal Bridgestones it cam with is around £80 a tyre and was wondering if there are any other brands which are "as good". From what I can see from the thread, Toyo T1-R seems to be the tyre of choice....
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