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Ibiza Rear Suspension?
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I think all the cars in the supermini class have this type of suspension on the rear. This is why I have gone up to a Leon.
Maybe the new Fiesta has indipendant but it's not a VAG.
Maybe the new Fiesta has indipendant but it's not a VAG.
The cost of the independant rear (plus maybe space issues) keeps them away from the small car segment. A car can handle quite decently with a torsion beam axle.
There were quite a few manufacturers going for the indy rear back along but owing to costs many are going back to torsion beams.
There were quite a few manufacturers going for the indy rear back along but owing to costs many are going back to torsion beams.
Poverty
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I'd forgotten about the MINI. The A1 is a likely candidate as, like the MINI, it's not really bargain basement money like the Beezer. Wonder how much the A1 will be considering the Boc is nearly £17k ( I guess the new Polo GTI will also be around that figure probably using the 150PS 1.4 unit)
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sorry Nath but (crap) it is just your view i have now had a mk5 for nearly 4 months and driven right the car is spot on and a great work tool
Well I must say that I haven't actually driven a mk5, I did not want another VAG with a rigid rear axle and I dislike the looks of the front end. Both me and my wife commented on the difference between the mk4 that we had and the mk2 leons that we test drove (even with 18's) it was a day and night difference.
As far as I know the mk4 and mk5 have exactly the same rear suspension and in the mk4 section you will find more threads with people moaning about noisy and harsh rear suspension than you can shake a stick at.
You are welcome to disagree with me and have "your view" but as for me talking "crap" I think not.
You have a rigid rear axle and it is worlds apart from independent rear suspension, end of.
Just remember that all of the mk5's are very new at the moment, when there are a few with some miles on there wil be plenty of people moaning.
As far as I know the mk4 and mk5 have exactly the same rear suspension and in the mk4 section you will find more threads with people moaning about noisy and harsh rear suspension than you can shake a stick at.
You are welcome to disagree with me and have "your view" but as for me talking "crap" I think not.
You have a rigid rear axle and it is worlds apart from independent rear suspension, end of.Just remember that all of the mk5's are very new at the moment, when there are a few with some miles on there wil be plenty of people moaning.
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it's ok - in 5 months time your dampers won't be damping all that much & you'll understand
Independent suspension is better, it just costs more
Leonidas
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I thought it was a semi-rigid axel, And i do know the wheelbase is wider at the back of the new one and it has new dampers. I think I remember something about better silent running blocks aswel....
Perhaps on your days off you could learn a little about the names of some of the parts of the car and teach this new found knowledge to your driver training students.
They are dampers. The springs absorb the shocks and the dampers do the damping.
shock
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The MK5 is not a touch on the Mini at corners, the Mini has a much harsher ride compared to the MK5 but the suspension is firmer and having independent rear suspension gives it much better handling at corners.
There are corners I take at nearly 50mph on my MCS I feel scared to do 30mph on my MK5 as it starts under steering and feels like its going to topple over..
I used to have a MK1 A3 it did corners a lot better than the MK5, the only thing I like about the MK5 is the softness of the ride.
There are corners I take at nearly 50mph on my MCS I feel scared to do 30mph on my MK5 as it starts under steering and feels like its going to topple over..
I used to have a MK1 A3 it did corners a lot better than the MK5, the only thing I like about the MK5 is the softness of the ride.
hi dudes
i was disappointed when i learn the rear axle wasnt independent on my new mk5 but it works well enough in the city corners on low speed. i only suffer with the original 175x70x14 bridgestone b250 tyres on high speeds.
yusuf
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i was disappointed when i learn the rear axle wasnt independent on my new mk5 but it works well enough in the city corners on low speed. i only suffer with the original 175x70x14 bridgestone b250 tyres on high speeds.
yusuf
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Tigrian
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Handling for a small car didn't seem to bad to me
As an aside if people start having trouble and complaints as the car gets older it wouldn't be 1 set of tyres older would it?
Tyres make a large difference not just to comfort and noise but also handling. A good tyre will help a bad suspension but a bad tyre... well the welcoming embrace of the ditch awaits those who press hard on poor tyres (or worse). But I guess most on this site know that.
Shock absorbers/dampers what ever you want to call them (if you want to get all physics then absorbing the energy from the system to introduce control or damping does point to dampers but it's personal choice) also make a difference - take a look at the difference in braking distance from worn shocks if you want to scare yourself (and no I don't work for a tyre shop). However I'd be concerned if in 12 months the damping on the car degraded to the point it changed the handling/noise that much.
Drove a few mk5s when looking around and didn't notice any really issues - unlike the MiTo we drove (playstation 3 steering in a car I do not need). Will admit I didn't take the car to the edge - try and avoid doing that sort of thing on the road these days.
Still waiting our mk5 to be delivered - options means long wait given down sizing of the factory throughput........ guess we'll see for ourselves.
As an aside if people start having trouble and complaints as the car gets older it wouldn't be 1 set of tyres older would it?
Tyres make a large difference not just to comfort and noise but also handling. A good tyre will help a bad suspension but a bad tyre... well the welcoming embrace of the ditch awaits those who press hard on poor tyres (or worse). But I guess most on this site know that.
Shock absorbers/dampers what ever you want to call them (if you want to get all physics then absorbing the energy from the system to introduce control or damping does point to dampers but it's personal choice) also make a difference - take a look at the difference in braking distance from worn shocks if you want to scare yourself (and no I don't work for a tyre shop). However I'd be concerned if in 12 months the damping on the car degraded to the point it changed the handling/noise that much.
Drove a few mk5s when looking around and didn't notice any really issues - unlike the MiTo we drove (playstation 3 steering in a car I do not need). Will admit I didn't take the car to the edge - try and avoid doing that sort of thing on the road these days.
Still waiting our mk5 to be delivered - options means long wait given down sizing of the factory throughput........ guess we'll see for ourselves.
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