timing chain slipped

[rocky2008]

my timing chain slipped again today which was extremly dissapointing as it is a brand new chain the car is missfiring and only revs up to 3k, however sometimes the problem will pass over and the car works fine for a short spell. i took it down to a garage today and they said to check the timing on it and also check the airmass flow sensor, they reccomended to change to camshaft sensor but that is also brand new so i dont think that needs looking at. does anyone have any solutions to this?

PLEASE HELP ME ON THIS ONE, THANKS

 

[bluearosatdi]

Hi Rocky. I assume you have a 1.2 12v engine. I know that VW modified the timing chain tensioners on the 1.2. Had experience of a customers cars chain jumping and dinking the valves. He had to renew the chain and tensioners and found the new tensioner bits and pieces were modified. Valves were renewed as garage did an overnight leak test on them and they failed so had to be renewed as well. Regards.

 

[UncleFester]

This Is What I Drive
Seat ibiza 1.2 12v

 

[rocky2008]

Hi Rocky. I assume you have a 1.2 12v engine. I know that VW modified the timing chain tensioners on the 1.2. Had experience of a customers cars chain jumping and dinking the valves. He had to renew the chain and tensioners and found the new tensioner bits and pieces were modified. Valves were renewed as garage did an overnight leak test on them and they failed so had to be renewed as well. Regards.

yeah it is a 1.2, my car was working fine for a couple of days so i am hopeful it hasnt caused anymore damage as it is quite a big job to do on the drive way lol, the mechanics at "wolkswerk" did say the tensioners could have been loose. thanks for your reply!

 

[cheshire cat]

Valves were renewed as garage did an overnight leak test on them and they failed so had to be renewed as well. Regards.

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[rocky2008]

This Is What I Drive
Seat ibiza 1.2 12v

hi uncleFester, have you experienced any problems with your 1.2 12v?

 

[kriso]

hi uncleFester, have you experienced any problems with your 1.2 12v?

I think he's just quoting what it says in your profile - that you drive a 1.2. The 1.2 is the only 6L engine that uses a timing chain and this problem is quite common.

 

[Nath.]

If your chain has jumped it will cause a permanent problem until the chain is timed up again and any damage to valves fixed.

If the problem comes and goes it probably isn't a jumped chain, I can't see the chain jumping teeth on a sprocket and then jumping back again

Sounds like a coil pack failure or a MAF problem to me.

If it's a coil pack that has failed go to a seat dealer as they cover the coil packs for 5 years . They know that they always go and will replace them for free until the car is 5 years old.

 

[rocky2008]

Sounds like a coil pack failure or a MAF problem to me.

If it's a coil pack that has failed go to a seat dealer as they cover the coil packs for 5 years . They know that they always go and will replace them for free until the car is 5 years old.[/QUOTE]

the cylinder it is missfiring on has just had a brand new coilpack and spark plug put on, whats a MAF problem?

 

[RUM4MO]

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Yes, must be really good valves and engine if they can last overnight, maybe it was just a keen nightshift mechanic pressurising it and checking it every 10 minutes - just in case it decided to start failing at a certain time?!? (nice work if you can get it!)

 

[rocky2008]

how do they do an over night leak test?

 

[Nath.]

Sounds like a coil pack failure or a MAF problem to me.

If it's a coil pack that has failed go to a seat dealer as they cover the coil packs for 5 years . They know that they always go and will replace them for free until the car is 5 years old.

the cylinder it is misfiring on has just had a brand new coil pack and spark plug put on, whats a MAF problem?[/QUOTE]

Maybe you have a brand new plug/coil pack that didn't last very long?

They can be switched to another cylinder to see if the fault swapped over too.

A MAF is a "Mass Air Flow" sensor, normally stuffed up the air intake pipe just after the air filter, but a dodgy MAF doesn't normally cause a misfire it causes the engine to be gutless or go into limp home mode.

If you deffo have a misfire then look at coil packs

 

[rocky2008]

yeah i see what your saying now, i took it down to my mates garage and he drove it to this company called volkswerk who deal with vw engines the same as mine, and they looked at it and said your best bet is to check the timing, cause when i holdmy foot to the floor in neutral it is going to 3000 rpm annd then just bouncing back, thanks for your replys mate i will check the coilpacks today befor it comes apart

 

[carly]

yeah i see what your saying now, i took it down to my mates garage and he drove it to this company called volkswerk who deal with vw engines the same as mine, and they looked at it and said your best bet is to check the timing, cause when i holdmy foot to the floor in neutral it is going to 3000 rpm annd then just bouncing back, thanks for your replys mate i will check the coilpacks today befor it comes apart

do you know where i can get the tool for the timingchain on a 1.2 12v ibiza

 

[rocky2008]

do you know where i can get the tool for the timingchain on a 1.2 12v ibiza

i found one on ebay befor for 40pound, bargin ... i never bought it though cause there are other things you can use to look them out, theyre a polo engine though i think, so you may have to search for polo engine cam locking tools. hope this helps.

 

[carly]

i found one on ebay befor for 40pound, bargin ... i never bought it though cause there are other things you can use to look them out, theyre a polo engine though i think, so you may have to search for polo engine cam locking tools. hope this helps.

need one 1 ASAP LOL cant wait on it getting posted

 

[rocky2008]

need one 1 ASAP LOL cant wait on it getting posted

you'll most probly have to pay the full wack of 80pound for one then, thats what i think they go for, your best bet would be a VWdealer, but even still, i think they have to be ordered lol

 

[carly]

you'll most probly have to pay the full wack of 80pound for one then, thats what i think they go for, your best bet would be a VWdealer, but even still, i think they have to be ordered lol

lol ill get one . well hopefully