Why are Pirelli tyres so bad???

[Willie]

Cheers for all the replies guys!!! keep them coming, and thanks for reminding me to sort my avatar!!!! Maybe i will think the same if i put goodyears on the car. I thought the road noise was greatly reduced since putting the pirellis on??!! But as i said i cant fault them.

I ask this coz most LCR's i see weather they be on ebay or parked on the road have pirellis on.

TBH until I started on this forum I never paid too much attension to tyres etc.
I had shite tyres on my last car but didn't know much about tyres so just stuck with them.
This forum is good for alot of things but bad for the bank balance

 

[breezy2511]

I've had my car for over a year now and have had to get four new tyres already. They came with P0's on them, and having an OCD that everything has to match, I carried on getting them. But the tread seems to go on them so quickly, but that could be to do with my driving.....

lol

 

[FLK]

I found the Pirelli's pretty bad even when I had two new fronts fitted by the dealer when I first got the car, they clearly couldn't handle the power even in the dry.

I've started the change to Asymmetrics this weekend but had to put them on the front as my GSD3s are made in China and had predictably distorted but the garage advised that I kept the worn rear GSD3s on the rear due to the vibration I'd get if they moved them to the front. I would have replaced them but money is getting tight at the moment and I need new brake pads on the front along with an MOT and tax coming up.

I have to say though the front GSD3s still kept their grip level well even in the wet with the middles worn down to the indicators and they were worth the extra cost, hopefully the Asymmetrics being German made will be okay now though. I'll have the rears replaced in a few months but I guess I'll still need to avoid China made ones unless Goodyear have sorted the problem out with the new Asymmetrics?

 

[Cupra Ross]

Had P6000 "ditchfinders" on my last Cupra for about 1000 miles until I could afford to change them. Along with Avon ZZ3s, they are the worst performance orientated tyre I've driven on.

At the moment I've got Eagle F1 GSD3s on the rear and Bridgestone Potenza RE050s on the front, grip is superb in conjunction with the Weitec coilovers.

 

[car_guy143]

Had P6000 "ditchfinders" on my last Cupra for about 1000 miles until I could afford to change them. Along with Avon ZZ3s, they are the worst performance orientated tyre I've driven on.

At the moment I've got Eagle F1 GSD3s on the rear and Bridgestone Potenza RE050s on the front, grip is superb in conjunction with the Weitec coilovers.

I'll second the Avons being not that good. I had them on a 306 Dturbo and they couldn't handle the immense 90bhp!

 

[JamJay]

Even my Falken FK452's out do the Pirelli's. The car actually feels like it'll stay on the road in the wet now and wheel spin is much reduced when pulling away quickly. On a side not, P0's are an ugly tyre IMO anyway.

 

[KaraK]

The P6000 is known as the "ditchfinder" due to the crap levels of wet weather grip.

So true.. when I bought my first scoob it had P6000s on and they were horrendous in the wet!

 

[godber225r]

Also what pressures you lot putting in your tyres?? im putting 2.3bar all round.

Any good??

 

[Cupra Ross]

Also what pressures you lot putting in your tyres?? im putting 2.3bar all round.

Any good??

33psi in my 18s. 2.3 bar should be fine, maybe a tad high for road use. Depends totally on your tyres, some like higher pressures, some wear better with a bit less in them.

 

[godber225r]

oh good ill keep them at that pressure and keep and eye on them. I put in what it says on the fuel filler door. My other tyres i had seemed to wear pretty even with this pressure in them

 

[Willie]

I've been running 33PSI all round in the summer and 36PSI all round for my winter tyres

 

[vwbassett]

Ive moved up from a golf gti(mk4) with eagle f1's to the LCR(225) and on roads i know well and in the wet at the same speeds my golf had more grip although with a hell of a lot more body roll than the LCR and this is meant to be a sportier version so il hopefully be trying F1's again on the Leon. In the dry they feel like good tyres though.

 

[godber225r]

Looks like the eagle f1 GSD3's are top at the moment! I heard that these tyres are being discontinued now so whats going to be the replacement??

 

[Cupra Ross]

Eagle Assymetric and they're better than the GSD2s and 3s.

 

[mjt]

i recommend conti sport contact 3s

 

[DannyC87]

anyone tried using Vredestein Ultrac Sessentas?

 

[godber225r]

Never heard of them????

 

[NJG]

Toyo Proxes T1R's

 

[Cupra Ross]

anyone tried using Vredestein Ultrac Sessentas?

Haven't tried them personally but they have an excellent reputation. Its worth noting that tyres that work well on say an Impreza, are not automatically going to be good on a Leon. Steering and suspension geometry plays a big part in overall grip and different cars will favour different tyres.

 

[MarkE]

Speak to Zboyd - he's run Vredesteins on his LCR and Mk2 Cupra.