Non-Starting Cupra - Whats Wrong Now? (Inc Video)

[robdf2]

Sorry to hear of all your troubles m8.

on a positive note could you not just part ex your cupra against another car? you will bound to get more than they are offering and the gap to your finance might not be that big , may even clear your finance ?
should find a car within the 28 days they have given you ?

Just for reference there is another thread on here about a guy who has been offered an 07plate ex demo Cupra for £17k and asking is that a ggod deal !

if you could part ex against another cupra at least you would still have the parts to go back on again or maybe an edition 30 golf?

just as another mention before i got my cupra i was looking at an ST
and wolf did modification packages but also gave you a warranty , its such a shame that SEAT dont do it or recognise the fact that they have a large following.

i know Audi did a large stand this year at a european show , showcasing mods that could be done to their cars and i think even sponsored the event so hopefully it shows manufactuters are changing their attitude but its just not in time to help you.

I for one really only buy a car because of its tuning potential thats why i stuck with SEAT and bought the Cupra. (had a mk1 cupra before)
The world of modifications seems to be a grey area and also really depends a lot on the dealer you take your car to.

Your experience wont stop me modifying my Cupra , i dont have finance but still have a 30month warranty left.
I wish you all the best m8.

Rob.

 

[phil3012]

Unfortunately the bottom has fallen out of the market for high performance petrol cars.

Depreciation on a Cupra is about £500 a month at the moment, or it was in August anyway when I was getting part ex quotes for mine.

There is another thread on it somewhere and I think it was the same guy who started it.

 

[Igor23]

As far as I can make out, this attitude to modifying only seems to apply to SEAT UK, which seems strange, as the brand is supposedly VAG's "Sporting" marque, check the list of accessories available on SEAT.com. then compare them to the list on SEAT.co.uk, stupid things like the sports sills are available in europe, but not here, the excuse given is usually " These parts have not passed type approval", but the factory approves them for use elsewhere? Obviously the people that run the HO here seem to think that running any kind of mods is akin to heresy, and anybody who gets caught will get burned (metaphorically and fiscally). VAG should take note of this and address the obvious discrepancy, and ensure that, as a worldwide organisation, every arm of that organisation sings from the same hymn sheet, otherwise you'll get scenarios just like this, and you'll end up loosing more customers, not something you want to do in the current financial climate...

 

[SpursMadDave]

Unfortunately the bottom has fallen out of the market for high performance petrol cars.

Depreciation on a Cupra is about £500 a month at the moment, or it was in August anyway when I was getting part ex quotes for mine.

There is another thread on it somewhere and I think it was the same guy who started it.

Yes I think its a little unfair to put all the blame at Seats door, its not their fault the market is so bad.

I agree with all the comments about them being more sympathetic to people who mod their cars especially as Seat is the 'sporting' division etc etc.... but the gap between the loan and the value of the car is not down to them, its market forces!

I hope your situation gets sorted out with the minimum of hassle and lots of common sense!

 

[RCS2K4]

Just a quick update peeps...

VagTech have found the fault - It's a blown relay. This would now make it a SEAT issue to fix, had the guys at VagTech not replaced it and the car now starts ok. However, Seat have come back to me today and said they are standing by thier original decision, and will not accept the findings of a local garage as accurate, and will need the car re-tested by them at my own expense, even though this fault no longer exists.

No mention of re-instating any warranty, the breakdown cover or re-imbursting any expenses...

They still want the car back, and that is what will happen. I have spoken to David Johns and Julie Sinclair at Auto Express, who are both very keen to write an article on what's happened, so watch this space...

 

[warren_cox]

Just a quick update peeps...

VagTech have found the fault - It's a blown relay. This would now make it a SEAT issue to fix, had the guys at VagTech not replaced it and the car now starts ok. However, Seat have come back to be today and said they are standing by thier original decision, and will not accept the findings of a local garage as accurate, and will need the car re-tested by them at my own expense, even though this fault no longer exists.

They still want the car back, and that is what will happen. I have spoken to David Johns and Julie Sinclair at Auto Express, who are both very keen to write an article on what's happened, so watch this space...

Well done mate, really glad to hear it's sorted and that it is a non modification related issue. I love the arrogance that they won't accept a 'local garages' findings. I doubt SEAT would have found the issue in a week. Was it fuel pump relay? Used to go a lot on Mk2 Golfs.

Nice to see they will still charge you though, very charitable! I'm sure Auto Express will gladly run the story as it will make good reading, with 2 reported SEAT garages closing in the last couple of days maybe they ought to wind their necks in a bit.

 

[ZBOYD]

It would be interesting to hear which relay it was that blew and was subsequently replaced, because it could well be useful fault finding information for people in the future.

 

[Mat138L]

Just a quick update peeps...

VagTech have found the fault - It's a blown relay. This would now make it a SEAT issue to fix, had the guys at VagTech not replaced it and the car now starts ok. However, Seat have come back to me today and said they are standing by thier original decision, and will not accept the findings of a local garage as accurate, and will need the car re-tested by them at my own expense, even though this fault no longer exists.

No mention of re-instating any warranty, the breakdown cover or re-imbursting any expenses...

They still want the car back, and that is what will happen. I have spoken to David Johns and Julie Sinclair at Auto Express, who are both very keen to write an article on what's happened, so watch this space...

just keep the car fella and tell them there is no way its a problem with the mods and you will drive it over for them to inspect. I cant understand why they did not just give the car a good look at first ie not just plugging the thing in bloody fitters lol

 

[Donnyboy]

This all sounds like a nightmare and stressful and costly time for you. Hope you get through it ok.

Also, If you put a deposit on the car, are you not entitled to get any of that back? If you wait till they cancel the agreement then the car is their concern, so leave it where it is and let them collect it etc?? If they car runs now, then how can they charge to find a fault that's not there?!?!?!

It may also me cheaper to fight it through court than to pay the different in the price they give and the finance balance?

 

[H8T WP]

But what they will say is that the relay blew due to the mods... BUT its down to them to proove this was the case. If they cant then thats there problem.

 

[UncleFester]

Just a quick update peeps...

VagTech have found the fault - It's a blown relay. This would now make it a SEAT issue to fix, had the guys at VagTech not replaced it and the car now starts ok. However, Seat have come back to me today and said they are standing by thier original decision, and will not accept the findings of a local garage as accurate, and will need the car re-tested by them at my own expense, even though this fault no longer exists.

No mention of re-instating any warranty, the breakdown cover or re-imbursting any expenses...

They still want the car back, and that is what will happen. I have spoken to David Johns and Julie Sinclair at Auto Express, who are both very keen to write an article on what's happened, so watch this space...

So even though it's been fixed by a well known garage and is running software from a known tuner etc etc they still won't step back?

If they did would you keep the car or is it now a matter of principle?

 

[webhype]

Hey, its been mentioned but not sure if u responded to it.

what about a bank loan to clear the finance, that way, you can get a laon to cover the 15grand and your re-payments will be a lot less than on a 20grand finance deal.

That way, you keep the car, which is now fixed, and u get to drive round in a great powerful car, sod the dealer.

 

[alexj124]

wow, that was some reading!!

So disappointed for you not very good CS from Seat.

Glad it is fixed now even though you're having to give it back etc. Shows it wasn't a moddifying problem.

Although as people have said, with it being in the T&C's etc its a tough one as although they have gone about it all the wrong way, they probably are in the right.

Hopefully all gets sorted for you one way or another, and that everyone learns from this

cheers

 

[Tam]

I would personally bank loan out the money for the finance, treat it as lesson learned for taking out seat finance deals and use vag-tech as the service people from now on.

This then leaves you a bloody quick car, which you know how its been treated / driven (as its yours!) and no doubt at service time you'll actually save some money over the main dealer costs.

Then at time of sale, sell your motor and if you still want - never by a VAG again ..

I'd also still go to the papers and let their readers make their own decisions as to how VAG have treated you and warn others about it.

 

[seremotors]

It would be interesting to hear which relay it was that blew and was subsequently replaced, because it could well be useful fault finding information for people in the future.

Im coming to this thread late but it is some story!!! Interesting to note that the same relay is used on the main board of both petrol and diesel models. We have had 1 or 2 in here not starting and due to problems on other models (especially Renaults) we fitted one 'just to see' and hey presto!!! Its part number 1K0951253 in location 449, only around £7

 

[phil3012]

One thing to bare in mind for those who are saying get a £15,000 loan is that banks aren't exactly dishing out money at the moment due to the credit crunch.

The APR is actually quite steep, the same loan I got 4 years ago for the Celica is 3% higher than it was then with Alliance & Liecester, other companies have withdrawn from that market.

I read a few weeks ago, sales of car finance are booming as it is getting harder and harder to get a loan from the bank.

 

[P0LKR]

Glad to hear the car is fixed. I hope Autoexpress give them a good going over. Might need to buy the magazine now.

 

[2zeroalpha]

There are still rates below 7% out there depending on circumstances and in fact there are companies advertising loans at 5.5% if you are a homeowner. I would be tempted to have a look at it.
To be honest I wouldn't rush to any decisions. They have given you 28 days and getting a loan wouldn't take anything like that time. I would take the time to examine all your options, buying time if necessary.
You're going to be very wound up at this point (and rightly so), give yourself the time to mull it over.

 

[Al]

It would be interesting to hear which relay it was that blew and was subsequently replaced, because it could well be useful fault finding information for people in the future.

Exactly my thoughts.

Any detail on this RCS?

 

[RCS2K4]

Exactly my thoughts.

Any detail on this RCS?

All I can tell you without having a pic to hand, is that it was inside the fuse box next to the battery, and was pretty big, had 3 pins on it, and was grey...

I dont have any technical term for it!