Oil temperature in LCR

Phillc

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My coolant heats up in about 5 mins. Oil I reckon takes another 5-10mins. And like you my commute is only 20 mins, so I'm driving like a granny all the way. Occasionally I put my foot down but only after 10mins minimum, as I know it's at least warm. A bad idea?

I would think 10mins a bit early.
This thread shows how imho that the oil temp gauge is very important, and that thinking the engine is up to hard work just because the water is up to temp, is wrong, i have three gauges oil temp,oil pressure and boost, all will show potential problems before the problem becomes terminal.
 

Phillc

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according to my defi bf gauges it takes about 5 mins to get up to temp

then it's happy time :)

Defi..top gauges this is interesting i have the auto gauges and it takes 10/15mins for the oil to get to temp, is this a gauge quallity thing? what do you all have and whats the time taken to reach temp, all the previous posts were about the same time except Kez.
Does it matter where the sensor is, mine is in the spare location on the filter housing.
 

traumapat

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Jul 24, 2005
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ive found in summer. 10 mins for oil to hit 85/90
winter 15-20 depending on how cold it is.

moving sender to sandwich plate/oilfilter from its usual position has made gauge a little slower to react but not hugely... perhaps 5 degrees diff at most.

agree with robs timings when looking at 60 as the temp
 

DOLBY

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according to my defi bf gauges it takes about 5 mins to get up to temp

then it's happy time :)

mine are exactley the same mate and mine takes an eternity, mind you i always left the car off boost for at least 12 mins (before i got the gauges), but this was still too early...

**sorry off topic**
from a cold start is it ok to fast idle the car?, i did tonight at 1800 rpm and it took 11 minutes to reach 70 degrees which i thought was quick...is fast idling bad for the engine?
**back on topic**
 

Radeonuk

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Hi all

If you have fitted atermarket guages where have you plumbed the sensor into the oil system?

Jon
 

Phillc

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if memory serves blanking plug 10 on this diagram
http://www.42draftdesigns.com/installation/tech/oil_sw_18t.htm

however ive found using a sandwich plate on the oil filter easier especially if you want more than 1 sender fitted

This is what i did, temp on the blank plug above the oil filter and then when i got the pressure gauge i got the sandwich plate to mount it to.
In the above link its say's that there is a stock pressure switch, i thought it was a oil leval sensor that made the oil light come on not pressure.
 
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RobDon

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Mine is in the block where the factory oil pressure sensor is, the pressure sensor is now mounted on the side of an adapter.

I'd never recommend beating on your engine within 10-15 mins of a cold start, I'd wait 15 mins absolute minimum before everything is up to temp.
 

Radeonuk

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Could any one post a pic where the sensors/ blanking plug is? Also where have you bought the sandwich plate from. As i'm interested in making this mod to my car.

Many thanks
Jon
 

Muttley

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Oil level is tricky to measure in a car on the move as the oil sloshes around a lot, so the system has to take an average and balance between averaging over a long period, i.e. reacting slowly, which could mean that a warning comes too late, and reacting quickly, which will mean more false danger signals, e.g. going up a long hill. A reliable oil level warning has the advantage that it will warn you before damage has occurred.

Oil pressure is relatively easy to measure, and should be stable between oil pump and bearings. However, low oil pressure warnings are usually a sign that some damage has already occurred.

Almost all cars are fitted with an oil pressure sensor, usually wired to a dashboard annunciator light. Very few cars have an oil level sensor, which is always in addition to the pressure sensor.

My old Golf GTI had two oil pressure switches, the second being a low pressure switch on the head, detecting pressure to the camshaft. This one would always start to beep on fast roundabouts when the oil was getting low, indicating that oil was sloshing away from the pickup pipe. The high pressure switch never came on, though (they had different beeps and indicator light patterns). It was a good system, but probably considered too confusing for the average driver. Sometimes I think I don't want to meet the average driver - other than avoiding him on the roads every day, that is.

I think all Leons have the oil pressure sensor attached to the oil filter bracket, which is attached to the engine block and not part of it. So there is still hope if you knacker the threads on the filter bracket. Of course, you then have to get the filter-bracket-to-block bolts undone . . . . .
 

sparkyc

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gonna get a autogauge boost gauge an oil temp? do they come with all the stuff needed to fit? also whats better, psi or bar?
 

drvince

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gonna get a autogauge boost gauge an oil temp? do they come with all the stuff needed to fit? also whats better, psi or bar?

Yes, It should come with sender and wiring.

If you take a mechanical boost gauge (more responsive than electrical), you would also need to run a piece of tubing to the gauge.

The faceplate on the oiltemp gauge (psi or bar) is a matter of personal taste.
If you live in a country using imperial values (like U.K.) you would most likely go for PSI,
for metric countries (mainland) Bar is more common.

Just make sure your oiltemp is not in Fahrenheit though, but in Celsius.
 
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