Any DSG drivers out there ! DSG creep !

[jimbo_FRDSG]

Had my FR DSG for about 6 weeks now and totally impressed with the mating of the DSG with the TFSI engine, its a cracking combination. As I said in my introduction on the new members section I have been an automatic gearbox driver for approx 20 years and other cars have been mainly Honda, Mazda, Ford.
With all these (well from what I can recall that is) if you stopped on a slight slope or hill then took your foot off the brake pedal the car would 'hold'. However I find with the Leon DSG that it begins to 'creep' once you take the foot off brake pedal, it appears to be holding at first but then moves forward. I have also experienced 'roll-back' on certain slopes.

Any of you other DSG owners notice this and if so is it normal for this type of auto box, could the idle revs be adjusted to prevent this ? I seem to remember a garage curing this on one of my first autos many moons ago but the memory isn't what it used to be

J

 

[SEATcarsdirect.co.uk]

mine does the same so i would assume its normal


Irfan

 

[Poverty]

Even normal merc autos roll these days. Maybe its a regulation of some sort?

 

[frleon2007]

creep

its normal for this type of g box its got all sorts of electronic wizy bits that only let the drive operate when your foot is off the brake pedal if you pull up the handbrake on a hill you will feel the car trying to drive, touch the brake pedal it will stop and roll back

 

[rpmleon]

Mine does the same

 

[MatthewB]

Doesn't the DSG go into neutral when it comes to a complete stop? Then when you lift off the brake it puts it into gear, which would explain the DSG tendancy to "hesitate" when you pull off.

I would imagine on a gentle slope there's enough revs to hold it then start moving, but on a steeper slope there's enough time between lifting your foot off the brake and it engaging 1st to get the roll-back.

 

[ghosty]

this must be normal then, ours does the same
its not very often u need to use the handbrake though
g

 

[flakmunky]

Take your foot off the brake slowly?

 

[Robdrums]

What is the actual difference between Neutral and Park on an auto, never understood that? Does it stop creeping if you put it in Neutral?

Rob

 

[rpmleon]

What is the actual difference between Neutral and Park on an auto, never understood that? Does it stop creeping if you put it in Neutral?

Rob

No creep in Neutral? Yep! Because it is in Neutral (i.e. No gear engaged). You can actually feel that slight "kick" if you put it in neutral when you know you have a wait!

What I have found is you cannot remove the keys unless you have put it in "Park" first when you stop to get out!

RPM

 

[CrispDust]

I would suggest that its not a good idea to try to hold the DSG on a hill.
In a normal auto you can do this since the torque converter will "slip". On the DSG you're slipping an actual clutch and therefore wearing it. I cant imagine a clutch swap on a DSG is going to be cheap.
The delay is the wet clutch engaging after you release the footbrake to allow the clutch to engage. So far this is really the only poor design of the DSG that bothers me.

P actually locks the gearbox so car wont roll. Neutral is neutral.

 

[14k]

I would suggest that its not a good idea to try to hold the DSG on a hill.
In a normal auto you can do this since the torque converter will "slip". On the DSG you're slipping an actual clutch and therefore wearing it. I cant imagine a clutch swap on a DSG is going to be cheap.
The delay is the wet clutch engaging after you release the footbrake to allow the clutch to engage. So far this is really the only poor design of the DSG that bothers me.

P actually locks the gearbox so car wont roll. Neutral is neutral.

On a hill are you suggesting breaking to a complete stop and then initiating the handbrake asap and taking your foot off the brake pedal? Just not quite sure what you're saying.

 

[CrispDust]

What I tend to do is put handbrake on but keep foot brake pressed. You'll notice if you take foot off brake with hand brake on the clutch is still engaged momentarilyand will creep briefly.
It is possible to hold the car on hill with on/off brake but I am sure the clutch will suffer.

 

[14k]

What I tend to do is put handbrake on but keep foot brake pressed. You'll notice if you take foot off brake with hand brake on the clutch is still engaged momentarilyand will creep briefly.
It is possible to hold the car on hill with on/off brake but I am sure the clutch will suffer.

So when you pull off again do you take the hand brake or foot brake off first?

Cheers