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pd or not

mrk

Active Member
May 4, 2007
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is my engine a pd engine

its the 110 bhp one out of a 2001 tdi ibiza sport mk3

whats the opposite of a pd engine and what makes it different to the others
 
Nov 2, 2006
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Annaghmore
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Yours is a non-pd. PD has a pump on each injector and is operated with a cam. Just a different type of injection system. Non-PD would be the opposite! Normal TDI has a variable fuel pump and PD doent, although dont remember the name for the PD one.
 

Tallica

Active Member
Aug 8, 2007
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Why we are on this subject, what about the 1.9tdi 105 bhp put in the Altea Reference sport?
 

Muttley

Catch that diesel!
Mar 17, 2006
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31
North Kent
Briefly :blink:

The earliest VAG TDI engines, TDI 90 and TDI 110, are non-PD. They use a conventional diesel distributor pump system driven off the toothed cambelt. Injection quantity and timing are set at the pump and each injector has a separate feed line from the pump.

The more recent VAG TDIs, including 100, 105, 115, 130, 150 and 160 BHP engines, are PD (Pumpe Duese, best translated as Pump Injector). Fuel is distributed by a low-pressure pump and common fuel rail to individual injector assemblies attached to each cylinder head. Injection quantity and timing is set at the injector. Stripped of all their complex engineering detail, the injectors are just like a stirrup pump or a syringe squirting fuel through a spray head into the cylinder. Of course, the complex engineering detail is what makes it work reliably for hundreds of thousands of miles :D The injectors are driven by extra lobes on the single camshaft. These lobes are very high-lift, and even though the cam followers have rollers, they are very highly stressed and require special high-grade oil to avoid premature wear.

There was a PD TDI 90 but apparantly it was only fitted to VW Sharans.

All of these engines have their injection timing and quantity parameters finely tuned by electronic actuators that modify the basic mechanical delivery.

The best way to tell whether your engine is PD or not is by engine code, but I haven't found a list yet which distinguishes between PD and non-PD TDI engines. I might put one together - but not today, the boss might notice :(
 

Muttley

Catch that diesel!
Mar 17, 2006
4,987
31
North Kent
OK, here's a list extracted from Elsawin. No claims for being complete :)

Code:
PD Engines			
Code	kW	BHP	Models
AJM	85	116	
ANU	66	90	Alhambra
ARL	110	150	Leon, Toledo, Ibiza
ASZ	96	131	Leon, Toledo, Ibiza, Cordoba, Alhambra
ATD	74	101	Ibiza, Cordoba
ATJ	85	116	
AUY	85	116	Alhambra
AVB	74	101	
AVF	96	131	
AWX	96	131	
AXB	77	105	
AXC	63	86	VW Transporter
AXR	74	101	
BJB	77	105	Altea
BKC	77	105	Altea
			
038	74	101	
AVQ	74	101	
AXS	74	101	
AZU	74	101	
AZY	74	101	
BEW	74	101	
BKE	85	116	
BLS	77	105	
BLT	96	131	
BLU	81	110	
BPX	118	160	
			
Non-PD Engines			
Code	kW	BHP	Models
1Z	66	90	Ibiza, Cordoba
AFN	81	110	Ibiza, Cordoba
AGR	66	90	Leon, Toledo, Ibiza, Cordoba
AHF	81	110	Leon, Toledo
AHH	66	90	Passat, Audi A4
AHU	66	90	Ibiza, Cordoba
ALE	66	90	
ALH	66	90	Leon, Toledo, Ibiza, Cordoba
ASV	81	110	Leon, Toledo, Ibiza, Cordoba
AVG	81	110	
			
AND	66	90	
ANE	81	110	
AVM	63	86	
AXN	66	90	
BAW	57	77	
BEU	43	58	
BJC	53	72
 

muddyboots

Still hanging around
Oct 16, 2002
5,739
1
Interesting how the 130 engines are listed as "131" bhp in that list.
I thought they were actually rated at 130 PS (~128bhp) :shrug:
 

Muttley

Catch that diesel!
Mar 17, 2006
4,987
31
North Kent
muddyboots wrote
Interesting how the 130 engines are listed as "131" bhp in that list.
I thought they were actually rated at 130 PS (~128bhp)


Jon TDI wrote
Probably a conversion from kW & then rounded up.

Yep, Elsawin only quotes kW so the HP figure is an excel conversion, as we're all more familiar with horespower.
 

brad1

Guest
can someone please confirm whether a injector from AFN engine will be the same as the injectors in my ASV engine
cheers
 

gti gadge

Guest
Briefly :blink:

The earliest VAG TDI engines, TDI 90 and TDI 110, are non-PD. They use a conventional diesel distributor pump system driven off the toothed cambelt. Injection quantity and timing are set at the pump and each injector has a separate feed line from the pump.

The more recent VAG TDIs, including 100, 105, 115, 130, 150 and 160 BHP engines, are PD (Pumpe Duese, best translated as Pump Injector). Fuel is distributed by a low-pressure pump and common fuel rail to individual injector assemblies attached to each cylinder head. Injection quantity and timing is set at the injector. Stripped of all their complex engineering detail, the injectors are just like a stirrup pump or a syringe squirting fuel through a spray head into the cylinder. Of course, the complex engineering detail is what makes it work reliably for hundreds of thousands of miles :D The injectors are driven by extra lobes on the single camshaft. These lobes are very high-lift, and even though the cam followers have rollers, they are very highly stressed and require special high-grade oil to avoid premature wear.

There was a PD TDI 90 but apparantly it was only fitted to VW Sharans.

All of these engines have their injection timing and quantity parameters finely tuned by electronic actuators that modify the basic mechanical delivery.

The best way to tell whether your engine is PD or not is by engine code, but I haven't found a list yet which distinguishes between PD and non-PD TDI engines. I might put one together - but not today, the boss might notice :(

The easiest way is to bend your ass over and look at the floor under the drivers seat:D All PD's have a return to tank fuel cooler strapped their as the fuel is way to hot to go back in the tank otherwise:funk:
 
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