Looking at intercoolers-should i go fm or sm. i'm thinking that a front mount may become a little counter productive, it will surely be dterimental to radiator performance????
Advice plaese!
Advice plaese!
Fmic Or Smic?
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Nope, the air flows past the intercooler to the radiator just fine. Dont mount the front mount too close though otherwise heatsoak from the rad will heat the front mount and you wont be gaining the most you can..
SMIC are not very good, they are too small. Buy a good quality FMIC..
SMIC are not very good, they are too small. Buy a good quality FMIC..
Im getting a Forge Front mount fitted tommorow. Ive chose Forge as they products are tried, tested and proven.
Not to mention that their customer service is great
Not to mention that their customer service is great
jabbas pro alloy ones are the best out of the 3 , forge ones can only really flow upto 300bhp , so if u r thinking of going big turbo down the line get a jabba one ,
well to be honest, i won't be going mega big anyway, so it will most likely to be forge. laguna-any views?
i don't have the money to build and then keep repairing a 300bhp+ motor!
i don't have the money to build and then keep repairing a 300bhp+ motor!
Laguna has some good reviews and seems to work pretty well. Its also cheap. Do a search on laguna intercoolers and you will find all the info you need on them.
Im personally choosing the forge becuase I love the look of it and I dont plan on going big turbo.
Laguna is a radiator core with intercooler ends, good, but not worth all the hassle <--In my view..
The Jabba and Forge itmes are expensive though.. But are bolt up kits, which makes things a lot easier.. And depending on where you look, and how handy your fabrication skills are, a cheaper, better alternative can be found with a little DIY action.
People slate the Ebay items cos their cheap, but on the other hand they are big, bar and plate contruction, good mounting eyes, and well made and have proven results. J-tech Automotives 1.8t Mk2 with a custom internals GT28 on a stock BAM code engine and Emerald ECu made 330whp yesterday on Dave Walker RR - a very reputable RR, with a medium sized Ebay intercooler than was bought for £130! With a hundered quids worth of samco bends and £40's worht of alloy tube.. They work VERY well.. - Granted the situation for the smaller turbos may be slightley less ideal..
The Jabba and Forge itmes are expensive though.. But are bolt up kits, which makes things a lot easier.. And depending on where you look, and how handy your fabrication skills are, a cheaper, better alternative can be found with a little DIY action.
People slate the Ebay items cos their cheap, but on the other hand they are big, bar and plate contruction, good mounting eyes, and well made and have proven results. J-tech Automotives 1.8t Mk2 with a custom internals GT28 on a stock BAM code engine and Emerald ECu made 330whp yesterday on Dave Walker RR - a very reputable RR, with a medium sized Ebay intercooler than was bought for £130! With a hundered quids worth of samco bends and £40's worht of alloy tube.. They work VERY well.. - Granted the situation for the smaller turbos may be slightley less ideal..
i'm not too bad with spanners, but my mate is a mastertech, and will be doing the work. mind, he doesn't know yet........
I've done some searching and a company in the states called ivevex seem to doo decent gear, at a fair price. still searching.
I've done some searching and a company in the states called ivevex seem to doo decent gear, at a fair price. still searching.
And what do you base that view on? Have you seen the logs of a laguna cooler compared to others?
Uh oh! I think i can hear a can being opened....... Oh dear god! Its a can of worms! Run!!!
dont start another intercooler war. lol
You could argue till your blue in the face,with no result. lol
I've got what i believe is a custom intercooler and that does me fine.
Basically look at what you can afford or what you want to spend. if you want the "real deal" go for the Jabba or Forge one, If you fancy one that does the job just fine and cost about 1/6th of the price, then go with the laguna.
At the end of the day, if you put one type on, its not like u can be dissapointed because you wont have anything to compare it too.. hehe.
I love my custom made one, i dont know if its that efficient, but I've got nothing to compare it to, and it seems just fine to me.. hehe
Who said ignorance isnt bliss?
You could argue till your blue in the face,with no result. lol
I've got what i believe is a custom intercooler and that does me fine.
Basically look at what you can afford or what you want to spend. if you want the "real deal" go for the Jabba or Forge one, If you fancy one that does the job just fine and cost about 1/6th of the price, then go with the laguna.
At the end of the day, if you put one type on, its not like u can be dissapointed because you wont have anything to compare it too.. hehe.
I love my custom made one, i dont know if its that efficient, but I've got nothing to compare it to, and it seems just fine to me.. hehe
Who said ignorance isnt bliss?
We have had considerable success with the intercoolers ...this 300 bhp figure is bullshit put out by other manufacturers
basically its so much better than the stock so will be beneficial no matter what the hp. We use 60mm diameter tubes all round so the flow of these are well suited to 400bhp (we have John Wilko Golf which is close to 400hp and he only has 57mm tubes and flow has been fine with both IHI and larger Garrett turbo's.
The IC has been tested in 2 seasons of endurance racing on a car with 250hp & 350 and never failed once even when the engine itself had overheated due to coolant fans failing.
We cant say without doubt that 400bhp would be achieved as we have never tested on a car with that amount of hp?
You will also find that there is an awful lot of disinformation out there about the Forge intercoolers
basically its so much better than the stock so will be beneficial no matter what the hp. We use 60mm diameter tubes all round so the flow of these are well suited to 400bhp (we have John Wilko Golf which is close to 400hp and he only has 57mm tubes and flow has been fine with both IHI and larger Garrett turbo's.
The IC has been tested in 2 seasons of endurance racing on a car with 250hp & 350 and never failed once even when the engine itself had overheated due to coolant fans failing.
We cant say without doubt that 400bhp would be achieved as we have never tested on a car with that amount of hp?
You will also find that there is an awful lot of disinformation out there about the Forge intercoolers
So anyhow, thanks for the insight guys. how many elbow joints, how much tube etc will i need?
I think i am about to embark on fitting my own.......................
(key the darth vader music)
I think i am about to embark on fitting my own.......................
(key the darth vader music)
Have a check on our section for the offers on FMIC`s from Forge
We can still do a few more at the prices quoted on there too
Sarah
We can still do a few more at the prices quoted on there too
Sarah
My air con is coming out for the intercooler anyway. living in the uk, windows are air con enough, if you want to turn the chill factor up, simply push the throttle.
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