Help please - cupra or fr??

[DIFT]

I'd say go to a dealer and have a chat.

Not sure on the "new" ibiza, if you want a mk4 im sure you could get one. Im sure a dealership in the country has a few tucked away somewhere.

 

[luke c]

dont believe everything the dealer says tho they will be looking for a quick sale. is buying brand new car necesary you could get a 07 fr for ten grand and save a few grand of new

 

[CUP-RACING]

get the petrol cupra, if you end up getting a remap which is probably a def, you wont have to worry about upgrading the brakes, intercooler, suspension which you will need to consider if you get the FR , you will have to worry about the clutch if you get the diesel remapped in the FR too

 

[keithr]

Plus there a grand cheaper so unless you do alot of miles its gonna take some time pulling that back with the diesel. but i also got my cupra for £13700 brand new with extras

 

[spicey]

thanks for all your replies guys. Got some thinking to do!! Going to see my dealer this week... wish me luck!

 

[rashcupra]

"what are the visual diffrences between the cupra and the FR"


are you having a laugh!

 

[Le0nheart]

I got my Ibiza FR for £9k, it was an ex demo model registered in 05. Mint condition. I also considered the Cupra but got the FR based on the fact insurance was cheaper and I didn't wish to spend over 10k for the car. Gotta say I love the FR!

 

[R1dd1ck]

Cupra all the way.....i drove fr an cupra back to back. Cupra just felt more...........like a monster!

 

[FR*Man1984]

Go for the Cupra wish I did when buying the Ibiza, now got a Polo GTi and loving it! basically the same car as a Ibiza FR 20vT...prefer the Polo over the Ibiza, ok so it doesn't go round corners as well but I can live with that, the suspension on the Ibiza is SHOCKing! Plus the Polo looks like a baby Golf with the Red Grille and downsized wheels, superb! lol

In terms of performance the TDI over the Petrol, you'll be surprised on how well the TDI revs up to about 3k and then it wants to give in, 1st and 2nd gears are useless even with a re-map all the power spins away. If you want rev-happy cars go for a Turbo petrol, sounds awesome when changing gear, get the lusty turbo whistle kinda wooosh noise, and the noise is improved with an air filter *my next mod*

Interior wise, everything you could ever want is standard. Climate Control, Cd player, elec mirrors and windows...cupra looks a little better with the red stitching everywhere, safety wise ESP is standard, you need ESP to raign in any unwanted wheelspin etc etc

Plus in the cupra you get extra power with no loss of fuel economy 180bhp on tap or 160 in the TDI...

you choose

 

[spidermonkey]

Buy an FR.

Too many folk buying Cupras these days. Mine might start to loose its individuality!!

 

[Ad Lav]

Take both for a test drive, not much difference, only 30bhp, Intercooler, different suspension and brakes, then its down to interior and exterior styling etc...

The drive is very similar petrol FR vs petrol Cupra and diesel FR vs diesel Cupra, just a bit more aggressive in the cupra.

 

[Georgel]

I agree with everything Rash said.

PS go for the Diesel, you will have cheaper insurance, cheaper road tax and cheaper fuel bills.

I'm not sure I do. I think my FR handles very well on the road. Its well balanced and turn is pretty sharp, alot sharper than I expected after reading reviews. My is standard too, I think the 16s help with handling characteristics over 17s and 18s personnally. I'm not talking grip here, but the A and B roads I drive everyday are very well suited to the FR. I can imagine the Curpa is better on very smooth tarmac and track.

However, my FR tdi performed very well round donnington recently. Take a look at my thread on here for some pics of her in action. If this car is going be everyday car I don't think you can go wrong with a FR tdi, but you said you want petrol. I have to say the 150bhp petrol engine is VERY flat I've driven several in many cars, ibiza, golf passat etc and they don't inspire. I can only imagine they are much better with a remap.

You also need to weigh up mileage, if you are doing a fair bit of mileage then a Cupra will devalue. At the current asking prices its not something I would relish when you come to sell it in 3 years time for next to nothing.

I won't try and make you change your mind, but my remapped tdi FR returns 52mpg and is only the smallest bit slower than my mate CTR. Thats when he rings its neck, if its in the wrong gear, or more importantly, on the road and not a race track its a very different story.

 

[spicey]

Thanks again for all your comments. I'm taking them all on board! To be honest I think I'll have to go for the FR purely from a money point of few. I'm surprised George that you say the petrol version is "flat". From what I can remember when i drove it I thought it was a bit of an eager beast to put it mildly - especially when the turbo kicked in..?!

 

[Nath.]

not wanting to start a petrol v derv battle but................

trust me the 150 20vt is plenty quick enough in standard form, people that normally drive dervs get used to a short burst of power/torque, when they drive something different they don't always see the finer points

the 20vt has long legs and IMO goes very well

oh, and it ticks over like a swiss watch

 

[spicey]

It's good to hear another positive comment about the FR's powerplant. I was beginning to think I was buying the poor man's alternative......?!

 

[Nath.]

In my opinion deffo not, it's a very capable powerplant and can return 40+ mpg if driven like ms daisy

you will read a lot of bigging up of diesels on here as if they have just discovered the wheel, us 20vt owners keep the bragging down a bit

 

[rashcupra]

that we do ^^ do not move to the darkside (diesel)

hope you find you petrol fr soon

 

[Ad Lav]

I get 45+mpg when I drive like a nutter!

 

[rashcupra]

!!BORING!!

 

[Ad Lav]

Shall I go now...