Mk3 Cupra or Mk4 TDI Sport 130

[Randomman]

Oh the decisions! Lol.

I've read through a lot of search topics and wanted to add a few questions. (none of which are 'which is beter')

Firstly what should a good Mk3 Cupra cost? I'm talking circa 60k with all belts and water pump changed and at least part service history.

Secondly, how does the Cupra handle long motorway trips? I know the engine is good for it, but how arduous is it for the driver?

Third, what sort of fuel economy can you expect on the Cupra on a motorway?

Fourth, What sort of money do you need do apply to a cupra to what spec? Im thinking FMIC, Ko3s, injectors(are these needed?) breathing mods and a remap. What power are people with these running?

And finally, how well is a Mk3 built? I'm not expecting Audi standards but it looks a little dated on the outside (sorry, just my opionion, still like it though!) is the inside well put together and comfy?

Cheers in advance

 

[JimyFloyd]

Right well - SEARCH

Secondly I regularly drive my cupra and an audi A3 2.0 TDI 140

The audi has better ride quality and build quality but the cupra is much quicker and i feel much more confident in my cupra overtaking etc.

I get about 30mpg on a run and about 22/23 on town stuff.

 

[B3NPM_Cupra]

1. a good condition mk3 with around 60k on sould be around the 5-6k mark..with major service done.

2. not bad at all..especially on standard susp!

3. put it this way my cupra very very rarely sees a motorway and im allways on the gas and my average mpg is on 28. so on a motorway you will easilly see around 350 ish miles to a tank im sure!

4. to get a cupra to that sort of spec you are looking around 2.5-3k, and would be around 240bhp and 260lbft.

anyone please correct me if i am wrong with wot i have said..lol

 

[Randomman]

Right well - SEARCH

I did, but it didnt return all the opinions of everyone on the forum (surprisingly) so I posted again to give the people who didnt answer a chance.

If its was a simple yes/no question I would agree with you wholeheartedly. I know its annoying when people ask the same thing over and over (like what dump valve, do these alloys fit etc) But I was asking for opinions on a car I could potential speand thousands of pounds on - so I want more opinions! Lol

 

[JimyFloyd]

I did, but it didnt return all the opinions of everyone on the forum (surprisingly) so I posted again to give the people who didnt answer a chance.

If its was a simple yes/no question I would agree with you wholeheartedly. I know its annoying when people ask the same thing over and over (like what dump valve, do these alloys fit etc) But I was asking for opinions on a car I could potential speand thousands of pounds on - so I want more opinions! Lol

Fair enough - but everything you asked has been covered numerous times!

Basically if you want a car that is going to be cheap to run don't get the cupra - it likes fuel, and in my experience isn't cheap to service! But.....you'll have a heap more fun in it than some diesel "sports" car!

 

[Randomman]

I'm not after a cheap running car, I've always speant way too much on insurance and petrol (ever since that calibra at the age of 18)!

I just want a few things back, like a good motorway drive, some 'reasonable' mpg at motorway speed and an engine that wont explode and destroy the world.

 

[pdcupra]

mk3 cupra any day!

 

[cupra_matt]

MK3 Cupra for sure, the diesels are good, BUT MK3 Cupra.

 

[Randomman]

What sort of milage are they reliable to? I know of PD130s that are running in the 200k+ area.

Am I likely to have many years happy motoring if I get one on 60k? Or will the turbo need replacing (although a Ko3s may be a must anyway!) will the engine fall apart? Will my wheels drop off?

 

[JimyFloyd]

At the end of the day it's a VAG car with a VAG engine - so anything catastrophic will be unlikely!

They do good mpg on the motorway and i find the ride on the motorway to be fine - done several long journeys in mine and no problem at the other end.

I pay £865 a year for fully comp insurance with no no claims - which i think reasonable for a 23/24 year old. But it could be cheaper seeing as my folks are insuring a brand new 911 for the same amount!

Seriously though mate - they are great cars and even in standard are very quick little cars - you'll keep up with higher power cars such as typre r no problem due to the extra punch of the turbo and 200ish bhp is only 399+vat away

 

[Randomman]

might have to get one then!

Not till previous loan is paid off unfortuantely.

 

[rogers]

mk3 cup[ra all the way

 

[blackturbo]

I have had 2 Cupras one with 50k and one with 130k, no major issues with either.

I think the mk4 lacks character against the mk3 especially the Cupra.

 

[Tom B]

How much are you MK3 Cupra guys paying on tax now? Is it over £100 for 6 months?

The diesels are around £120 for the year

 

[Dan Cupra R]

turbo petrol cars sound so much better than turbo 'chimney' diesels

 

[blackturbo]

And u know if u have a plume of black smoke it means trouble! lol

 

[Randomman]

How much are you MK3 Cupra guys paying on tax now? Is it over £100 for 6 months?

The diesels are around £120 for the year

I know.

Hi Tom btw. If I could afford a diesel cupra Mk4 I would get one in an instant, I loved yours.

But I cant, so I need to make an ajustment to what car will lever me back into VAGdom. I think the Ibiza is a good springboard for this.

Its just, economy against speed that is tearing me. Oh and Ptscchh but then thats best kept as a secret !

 

[Sisson]

a remapped 130 will easily see 55mpg+ mine did. also with a few choice mods like:

Remap
FMIC
312mm brakes
Clutch

You will see 185bhp and over 300 lb/ft and will still get good mpg, cheap insurance, cheap tax and a sub 7 sec dash to 60 and a 1/4 mile of late 14's...

Have you driven either cars yet btw?

 

[Randomman]

a remapped 130 will easily see 55mpg+ mine did. also with a few choice mods like:

Remap
FMIC
312mm brakes
Clutch

You will see 185bhp and over 300 lb/ft and will still get good mpg, cheap insurance, cheap tax and a sub 7 sec dash to 60 and a 1/4 mile of late 14's...

Have you driven either cars yet btw?

Been in a Cupra MK4 with map turned off. (pretty damn close to a remapped Sport) and I loved every minute of it.

I think the petrol is the more expensive, less torque kick but faster.

Its close IMO

 

[Dan Cupra R]

You need to weigh up the pros and cons of each and decide for your self.

MPG is a big factor with the diesels, my petrol cupra averages 22mpg which is awful but then, I didnt by my car to be economical.

Diesels are very torquey, I went against one in the 1/4 mile at gti, he killed me off the lights but by the time he had got into 2nd I flew past. Downside is changing gear at 4k rpm. Sound of a diesel puts me off but, if I had to use my car everyday to get to work I think I would go diesel, simply for the money side of things and the performance side considering its diesel is very impressive.