OEM xenon bulbs

muddyboots

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I used to have the OE Xenons on my Ibiza :)

The D1S bulbs have the high-voltage bits built into the base of the bulb, this means no high-voltage cabling has to run anywhere. I guess this is safer and maybe more reliable.
The ballasts are slimline units built into the bottom of the lamp clusters, made by Valeo.

For washers, you'd need a new bumper (which has the spring-loaded flaps), the washer units & brackets (these extend under pressure and poke through the bumper flaps), various bits of pipework (quite thick stuff, must be some pressure inside) to run behind the bumper, and a different washer bottle & pump (larger capacity - using the headlamp washers regularly uses fluid pretty quickly).
I think the pump just pressurises the pipework & washers with water, and as the pressure increases, the washers extend & then finally spray when pressure reaches a certain threshold.

Not sure if/how you'd get the levelling to work. I vaguely recall someone on here (from mexico??) fitted some OE Xenon units and *think* he got the levelling to work. Not sure how though - given that vag-com reports a Xenon headlight module fitted, there might be another module that needs fitting :shrug:
Also, there would need to be ride height sensors to know when the car was pitching up/down at the front. I can't remember seeing such a sensor on my Ibiza but there must have been one somewhere. The Passat one is very obvious at the front.
 

Ant FR

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I remember that Valeo were looking to do a kit to retro fit HIDs a few years back. involved a sensor on the rear axle and a sensor mounted up front, but only worked on cars with electric height adjustment ( such as the beeza)

Headlight washers, could be done, could use fixed ones like the old Punto GT's had. but to be honest they're a waste of time, i'm never sure why they are required. as all they do is pop up when you have just cleaned your car and spray a high power jet on to the lights then sprays all over your clean car. waste of time.
 

muddyboots

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Yes agreed the washers weren't much use, couldn't really shift any dirt, only time I did find them useful was for drenching pedestrians/cyclists/work colleagues/friends, and also for clearing excess snow off the headlights on the odd occasion.
 

R1ch85

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vagcat.com has all the part numbers for the washer system along with drawings for them.. also has part number for the bumper with the washer, but i dont think that its for the new FR bumper. Thats the one i want ideally cos i know that it can be ordered with xenons and looks much better than my pre facelift offering lol. Unless i can get a cupra bumper with washers.. anyone know?

The levelling setup.. still not much clue tbh tho if sumone could take a look at this and let me know if im heading in the right direction it would be much appreciated :)
http://www.vagcat.com/epc/cat/se/IB/2004/254/57/4742939/
 

FR*Man1984

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I have the lux pack on my car so I've got headlight washers. But still my question hasn't been answered. If you're car is parked up, and have been pulled by the cops, how will they know if the HIDs are retro or manufacturer fitted? The self-levelling systems on cars now-adays are useless, come on everyone knows!? Cars like 4x4's etc dazzle oncoming traffic, so I think that arguement is flawed. My question tho still stands...if a cop did pull you over, is there equipment they use able to spot if the HID's are properly installed? I don't think so...:help:
 

muddyboots

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The self-levelling systems on cars now-adays are useless, come on everyone knows!?
Not on the 2 cars I've had with OE HIDs; the Passat adjusts virtually immediately - just dab the brakes so the front dips down, or floor it so it rises up, and the headlamps adjust instantly.
Also the beam pattern is so perfectly defined with OE HIDs, there's a very sharp cutoff, no glare-causing dispersion that you often get when retro-fitting HIDs into ordinary reflector units.
 

Nath.

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I have the lux pack on my car so I've got headlight washers. But still my question hasn't been answered. If you're car is parked up, and have been pulled by the cops, how will they know if the HIDs are retro or manufacturer fitted? The self-levelling systems on cars now-adays are useless, come on everyone knows!? Cars like 4x4's etc dazzle oncoming traffic, so I think that arguement is flawed. My question tho still stands...if a cop did pull you over, is there equipment they use able to spot if the HID's are properly installed? I don't think so...:help:


agree with you on that, all they can do is guess that there may be an alignment problem with your lights and give you a 14 day vehicle rectification notice

you then get 14 days to correct the problem and get it signed off by an MOT station, they normally charge a few quid for this and then produce the signed off ticket at your local rozzer station

they don't have equipment for testing lights "yet" but they do have it for tints, tyre tread,exhaust noise/ co content and of course "SPEED"



there may be other bits they have so add them if you know them
 

muddyboots

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how will they know if the HIDs are retro or manufacturer fitted?
From the photos I've seen of DIY retro fits, you'd be able to spot the difference a mile off !
OE xenons would be built into the headlamp units, which are usually projector-style lenses. DIY setups usually have wires coming out the back of the standard non-xenon units (so usually standard reflectors - and housings often have the bulb type stamped on somewhere which would be a giveaway), heading towards a ballast that's had to be stuck somewhere nearby. And they rarely have headlamp washers, plus if you bounced the front of the car up and down when they were switched on, the beam wouldn't compensate.
 
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