The China and Germany ones are fine... so long as they are E-marked. Both places are used to make Euro tyres.
Goodyear Eagle GSD3 F1's......
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Few questions in response to posts fella's please 
Andy mine say made in China on them, are these crap quallity compared to the tyres made in Europe? if so I am gonna have a word at the place who fitted them.
What can I be doing wrong other than driving hard? (I don't drive it hard) tyre pressures are done digitally from cold and at exact pressure (as per filler cap sticker) don't see what else you can do wrong to cause premature tyre wear I do mostly short journey's?
I had this done on a Hunter system at local specialist (as I do with all my cars when I get them) and it was as spot on as it could be.
Andy mine say made in China on them, are these crap quallity compared to the tyres made in Europe? if so I am gonna have a word at the place who fitted them.
What can I be doing wrong other than driving hard? (I don't drive it hard) tyre pressures are done digitally from cold and at exact pressure (as per filler cap sticker) don't see what else you can do wrong to cause premature tyre wear
I do mostly short journey's?I had this done on a Hunter system at local specialist (as I do with all my cars when I get them) and it was as spot on as it could be.
Cheers Rob, just found this on the MX5 owners site (came up on a Google search)
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Tyre Safety Warning
This is a warning particularly addressed to people who may have bought Goodyear F1 tyres during the last few months, or may be thinking of doing so. Goodyear Eagle F1 are excellent tyres, have been popular with MX-5 owners and have been highly recommended by MX-5 technical experts (and indeed continue to be recommended). However, it has come to our attention that a quantity of Goodyear F1 tyres have been imported which were made in Thailand and do not carry the regulation 'E' marking. These tyres are not legal for sale in the EU, are designed for use under different road conditions than those found in the EU and may not be safe under all prevailing road conditions.
How do you know if your car is fitted with these non-regulation tyres? Take a very close look at the sidewall of the tyre. Amongst other things (size, speed rating, etc) there SHOULD be an E with either a number 13 or 5 after it, contained within a circle, followed by a 6 or 7 digit number. There will also be a country of manufacture. If yours say Made in Germany or China, and have the E marking, then you have nothing to worry about.
If your tyres do not have the 'E' marking followed by the 6 or 7 digit number, and say 'Made in Thailand' then you have unapproved tyres and should contact your supplier immediately. Drive very carefully until your supplier has fitted replacement approved tyres. If the supplier will not agree to replace the tyres, contact Trading Standards. It is illegal to supply non 'E' marked tyres for road use in the EC.
These are the basic facts regarding the 'E' marking of tyres:
All car tyres sold from 1st July 1997 must carry an 'E' marking. The 'E' or 'e' mark consists of an 'E' or 'e' followed by a number included in a circle of 12mm diameter or a rectangle. A further number follows this symbol.
The 'E' certifies that the tyre complies with the dimensional, performance and marking requirements of ECE Regulation 30.
The 'e' certifies that the tyre complies with the dimensional, performance and marking requirements of DIRECTIVE 92/23/EEC.
The number associated with the letter 'E' in the circle or 'e' in the rectangle is the code number of the government, which granted the type approval (No. 11 for the British Government and a different identifying number for each of the other European countries involved).
The number outside the circle or rectangle is the number of the type approval certificate issued for that particular tyre size/type.
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Not putting F1's on again even though I have the E marked ones, can't afford new front boots every 5500k.
That's the info I read when I bought Eagle F1's for mine and my Mrs' car. Hers are made in Germany and mine are made in China, both are e-marked and are spot on.
Don't dismiss them though, as every tyre manufacturer has this same problem of fakes or non-marked tyres being imported into the wrong countries 'on the cheap' through non-approved sources. It's just that this case of the F1's has caught the internets attention for some reason so everybody knows about it.
Don't dismiss them though, as every tyre manufacturer has this same problem of fakes or non-marked tyres being imported into the wrong countries 'on the cheap' through non-approved sources. It's just that this case of the F1's has caught the internets attention for some reason so everybody knows about it.
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
No VAT, hardly any import duty, cheap rent and wages ...
oh, and a full Leon tank of Premium 95 petrol here is £4.60
I really hope mine last longer than that! Will keep a close eye on them I think
Mine lasted circa 10-12K (Pirelli were 7-8K)
Guess the low mileage is due dur to that furking great lump of Iron over the front wheels on the PD150
Yeah must be summit to do with the extra weight at the front.
Had 4 new boots today anyway, local place by me don't do Toyo's so opted for Dunlop Sport SP9090 all round as he said that the Michelin PS2's were gonna have the same wear rate as the GSD3's so same milegae expeted from them and Vredestein, Bridgestones even worse and as I have had Dunlop SP9000 before on my 328i and they lasted 15k miles on the back with good grip this was the sensible choice.
Good news was that all 4 tyres had even wear as I know these cars like to wear inside edges faster
Price was £440 all in
Could have had them done at Blackcircles for £374 but local fitting center they use is all kids and with King David I always get free balancing inbetween tyre purchases for me and the wife so worth the extra IMHO.
Had 4 new boots today anyway, local place by me don't do Toyo's so opted for Dunlop Sport SP9090 all round as he said that the Michelin PS2's were gonna have the same wear rate as the GSD3's so same milegae expeted from them and Vredestein, Bridgestones even worse and as I have had Dunlop SP9000 before on my 328i and they lasted 15k miles on the back with good grip this was the sensible choice.
Good news was that all 4 tyres had even wear as I know these cars like to wear inside edges faster
Price was £440 all in
Could have had them done at Blackcircles for £374 but local fitting center they use is all kids and with King David I always get free balancing inbetween tyre purchases for me and the wife so worth the extra IMHO.
Agree the weight of the oil burner will not help....
but 3000 miles diference between Pirellis and Bridgestones... ? Guess they've done what they said on the tin. Have always had sticky bridgestone on the bike, but only got two tyres on that ....
Never had Dunlops either so leap of faith between them, Michelin and Toyo's.
AshTDiFr - you'll have to le me know how you get on.
but 3000 miles diference between Pirellis and Bridgestones... ? Guess they've done what they said on the tin. Have always had sticky bridgestone on the bike, but only got two tyres on that ....
Never had Dunlops either so leap of faith between them, Michelin and Toyo's.
AshTDiFr - you'll have to le me know how you get on.
Yeah, but as said I had Dunlop SP9000 on my 328i, had 18" MV alloys and the backs were 255/40/18 and these lasted 15,000 miles, so good going considering the beemer is RWD, will see how I go and re-visit this post with my findings, so far the grip is as good the GSD3's in the dry.
Will keep an eye out for your thoughts in a few thousand miles. By then I'll probably have a better idea of how my GSD3's are wearing too.
I've had my GSD3s on my car for around 5000 miles and they've hardly worn at all. Maybe you got a dodgy batch :|
Nashy
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Just ordered some F1's and should have them on by saturday. I'd done about 8k on a front set in my old gti6 (and that did get a thrashing) before selling it with minimal wear, so 5.5k on them seems very wrong. Got them through mytyres for £394 with my local tyre place charging £8.50 a corner to change, so im happy with that (blackcirlces came to £480 including fitting 
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www.camskill.co.uk they do em cheap but for the F1's you have to ring them for some reason
Toyos 225/40/18 for £90.50
Toyos 225/40/18 for £90.50
Having burned a set of T1-S on the fronts in 3500 miles, i would not fancy those again. I had the GSD3 on the 17" OEM wheels and they weren't looking to fair much better.
As i've said on another thread, i'm going to give the Falken 452 a go, see if the they're good enough. I'll keep the rear toyos where they are, they've hardly worn on the back, i want to see what I can do to the Falkens on the front.
As i've said on another thread, i'm going to give the Falken 452 a go, see if the they're good enough. I'll keep the rear toyos where they are, they've hardly worn on the back, i want to see what I can do to the Falkens on the front.
AndyCole
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This is just for information about F1's
There was another thread on here by Badger Bill about the wear problems with F1's when they got low on tread. The tyres wear like "a fifty pence piece" causing a noise at speed like a rumbling wheel bearing. At first it was thought that suspension may be to blame. After reading peoples comments it appears that it only affects tyres of "Eastern" manufacture.I had this problem on the rear tyres on my Cupra R. The fronts were German manufacture and were ok.After fast road use (revo fever) and a couple of hard trackdays I still get 10-12k out of them and the grip is superb. 5000 miles out of a set of road tyres on a cupra is not good value, unless your the next Lewis Hamilton!!!
There was another thread on here by Badger Bill about the wear problems with F1's when they got low on tread. The tyres wear like "a fifty pence piece" causing a noise at speed like a rumbling wheel bearing. At first it was thought that suspension may be to blame. After reading peoples comments it appears that it only affects tyres of "Eastern" manufacture.I had this problem on the rear tyres on my Cupra R. The fronts were German manufacture and were ok.After fast road use (revo fever) and a couple of hard trackdays I still get 10-12k out of them and the grip is superb. 5000 miles out of a set of road tyres on a cupra is not good value, unless your the next Lewis Hamilton!!!
The Pirelli P-Zero Rossos that came on my LCR lasted 6700 miles with sensible driving. I swapped them for Pilot Sport PS2s and got nearly 12K out of them! I have just had a replacement set of PS2s all round on some new wheels and i would never use anything else now.
I found a company that comes to you and fits them for £147 each including free puncture repairs for life. The last place I went to charged me £210 each and damaged a wheel in the process.
I found a company that comes to you and fits them for £147 each including free puncture repairs for life. The last place I went to charged me £210 each and damaged a wheel in the process.
210 is stupidly expensive...
Theres a place in Chester that will supply and fit PS2s for 135 per corner...
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They must have seen you coming........infact the tyre company probably have a big map in the office and a star and arrow pointing to your house to show where all their cashflow originates
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