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The LCR.... A future classic or not
- Thread starter bentaw
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I think as the prices fall they will (like Scooby's) fall in the hands of Chav's......we have some examples of Chav Wagons IMO already......Once they become recognised for being the 'tool' of choice for Chav's - Leon's dressed in Neon lights, graphics and bonnets getting drilled to fit LED's they will plumet in value......the ones that survive and remain near std may become a 'classic' 15-20 years from now though although I think there may be a tough period coming up for the LCR's image
the lcr is undoubtedly a great car and will Im sure be remembered fondly in years to come by those of us that have owned them! however, in recent years the car has become a disposable item and i cant see enough people giving a crap about the upkeep of an ageing car in the same way that people used to when a car was a luxury item for it to be considered a true classic!
For instance, how many genuine classics can you think of from the 80's that were not considered supercars in their time?
For instance, how many genuine classics can you think of from the 80's that were not considered supercars in their time?
Mk3 and Mk4 Escort RS Turbo
Sierra Cosworth Whale Tale
Sierra Cosworth 4x4
Escort Cosworth (OK maybe that sneaked into early 90's)
Lotus Carlton (1989 for the first ones IIRC)
Original E30 M3 BMW
Merc 190 2.3 and 2.5 Cosworth + Evo versions
Some were supercar slayers but not Supercars
The point I would make here is that there are a lot less LCRs on the roads than Scooby's, Evo's, 911's or most other cars for that matter. There are simply not enough around for them to become hugely popular with the chav brigade. I think their scarcity will make them a classic. I only see a couple of other LCRs each month, if that. I also think the look of the LCR is dating well, it looks as good today as when it first came out.
Well, I'm not entirely sure :S
Cars that hang onto their fan-base long after production stops, and go on to become modern-day classics normally have to do something different; break some rules or barriers. Not sure if the LCR, awesome as it may be, has done this.
VW's new(ish) Beetle will certainly leave an impression, as will the new Mini and the Focus ST, to be more specific. (Purchasable in Electric Orange, it'll surely stand out and be recognisable on colour alone!!). I'd like to see the LCR in the line-up of classic and nostalgic cars.. but why would it be?
Totally agree that standard or near-standard machines will command higher prices, end-game.. but when a faster example (without bell-end bodykits) will be attainable for less... I think that'd be an easy choice.
The LCR, is at essense a re-invented Golf GTi with style and performance given twisty new and interesting facets. And it's (the Golf GTi) already achieved a classic status... why? Because it was different, raw, fast and all in the characteristic hatchback-practical shell. LCR was too late to do this. As much as I adore them.
IMO, anyway.
Cars that hang onto their fan-base long after production stops, and go on to become modern-day classics normally have to do something different; break some rules or barriers. Not sure if the LCR, awesome as it may be, has done this.
VW's new(ish) Beetle will certainly leave an impression, as will the new Mini and the Focus ST, to be more specific. (Purchasable in Electric Orange, it'll surely stand out and be recognisable on colour alone!!). I'd like to see the LCR in the line-up of classic and nostalgic cars.. but why would it be?
Totally agree that standard or near-standard machines will command higher prices, end-game.. but when a faster example (without bell-end bodykits) will be attainable for less... I think that'd be an easy choice.
The LCR, is at essense a re-invented Golf GTi with style and performance given twisty new and interesting facets. And it's (the Golf GTi) already achieved a classic status... why? Because it was different, raw, fast and all in the characteristic hatchback-practical shell. LCR was too late to do this. As much as I adore them.
IMO, anyway.
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Agreed! Although last week i did seem to see quite a few other LCR's
Doubt they will actually make true classic status compared to other things.
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They are undoubtedly a great car, however, as have already been mentioned, i have started to see a couple (very very small minority i know) of them getting bought by the chav brigade, and its a shame to see. I dont think this will ruin its reputation though.
If its going to be a future classic it needs to give the same impact as things like the corrado, and even as far back as E-type Jag's, MGB-GT's etc.
If its going to be a future classic it needs to give the same impact as things like the corrado, and even as far back as E-type Jag's, MGB-GT's etc.
Nope, not a future classic.
a few cars out there of recent time that have been put up as future classics are:
Clio V6, Mini cooper S ( R53 shape), Clio 182 cup, Civic Type R ( not the newest one), Golf Gti Mk5, Mk4 R32 golf, Beetle, The new Fiat 500, VX220, Monaro, Fiat coupe 20vT, Focus RS ( not ST), Racing Puma,
and thats just a few.
The Leon is just missing something to make it a classic
a few cars out there of recent time that have been put up as future classics are:
Clio V6, Mini cooper S ( R53 shape), Clio 182 cup, Civic Type R ( not the newest one), Golf Gti Mk5, Mk4 R32 golf, Beetle, The new Fiat 500, VX220, Monaro, Fiat coupe 20vT, Focus RS ( not ST), Racing Puma,
and thats just a few.
The Leon is just missing something to make it a classic
Omg, rudd. We agree for once 
The Focus RS, imo, hit all the right buttons.. but didn't go above and behond in-terms of what Ford could of attained with their previous RS experience. Despite the good/mediocre hot-hatch performance, the car has still become a little legend. Looks fantastic and comes with so many high-end parts as standard. As you pointed out yesterday, the Quaife ATB for a start. Superb.
The Clio is scary. So fast and every bit a drivers car.. (modern day 205 GTi, in my opinion). Already taken its place in the classics list.
And, interestingly enough.. I'd quitr happily rate the CTR in the same list.. above the LCR.
The Focus RS, imo, hit all the right buttons.. but didn't go above and behond in-terms of what Ford could of attained with their previous RS experience. Despite the good/mediocre hot-hatch performance, the car has still become a little legend. Looks fantastic and comes with so many high-end parts as standard. As you pointed out yesterday, the Quaife ATB for a start. Superb.
The Clio is scary. So fast and every bit a drivers car.. (modern day 205 GTi, in my opinion). Already taken its place in the classics list.
And, interestingly enough.. I'd quitr happily rate the CTR in the same list.. above the LCR.
I too think the LCR will NOT become a future classic - simply because the shape of the thing isn't really anything out of the ordinary and the car isn't exactly groundbreaking - based on the Golf platform and all.
My current Mark I MX5 is a future classic if not already so having been the most successful selling convertible of all time. It is something different and started a trend which puts it in the classic status.
However, the LCR is a fantasic car and does a lot for the money and owners, I am sure, will treat it as "a classic" amongst fellow owners. Imagine if you had a great example of the LCR and you brought it out in say 10 years time from your garage where it had been stored. I doubt many people will say, "look at that LCR".
Cheers - Cobraman2007
My current Mark I MX5 is a future classic if not already so having been the most successful selling convertible of all time. It is something different and started a trend which puts it in the classic status.
However, the LCR is a fantasic car and does a lot for the money and owners, I am sure, will treat it as "a classic" amongst fellow owners. Imagine if you had a great example of the LCR and you brought it out in say 10 years time from your garage where it had been stored. I doubt many people will say, "look at that LCR".
Cheers - Cobraman2007
I agree with the other post that the CTR is more likely to become a classic just because it is a Honda and falls within the worldrenowned 'Type-R' category.
It doesn't look anything special compared to some cars but they sold in droves and when you mention the term hot-hatch of the new century - the CTR always gets a mention before most other hot-hatches. That being said, the Clio also will be known as a classic - even though chavs have made this car famous. I suppose they are good for one thing then.
Cheers - Cobraman2007
It doesn't look anything special compared to some cars but they sold in droves and when you mention the term hot-hatch of the new century - the CTR always gets a mention before most other hot-hatches. That being said, the Clio also will be known as a classic - even though chavs have made this car famous. I suppose they are good for one thing then.
Cheers - Cobraman2007
I think if you're looking to get a car in a list of modern classics you need to go all the way, or none of it. No half-measures, at all.
Stripping down the cars interior, reducing standard features and shoe-horning in a mammoth engine is one way to get the attention of the buyers with a love of driving. (306 Rallye, CTR, 205 GTi etc.). And if you aren't going to go the strip-down, high peformance route.. then you need to go for the heavily equipped, cruiser path. Anything in between passes and fades, imo.
Stripping down the cars interior, reducing standard features and shoe-horning in a mammoth engine is one way to get the attention of the buyers with a love of driving. (306 Rallye, CTR, 205 GTi etc.). And if you aren't going to go the strip-down, high peformance route.. then you need to go for the heavily equipped, cruiser path. Anything in between passes and fades, imo.
Not sure i agree with that, as the overall numbers of LCR's are far smaller than say cliosports/CTR's/Imprezas etc.
There weren't that many UK LCR's produced in the 4 yr life span they had. I remember seeing production numbers but cant remember to quote a figure.
Im in NE Scotland now, driving 150 miles per day and have been for about the past month. Ive yet too see another LCR up here, rare as rocking horse **** up this neck of the woods. Plenty of Vxr's/St's etc but not seen a single R.
Even before when i was living in N.Yorkshire, i hardly ever seen other LCR's 1-2 per month perhaps.
Yes some will get treated with the clear lexus lights and wide bore exhausts, its inevitable as prices drop but to brand the LCR as a whole a future chav classic, i cant see it
Just not enough of them to share around.
but to brand the LCR as a whole a future chav classic, i cant see it
I didn't brand the LCR as a whole a future Chav Classic
If you read what I typed I said
I said a few will get Chavved as prices fall then.........
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I.e, Jury is out ATM but don't hold out too much hope in the short term
I think the LC may take a bigger hit as the LCR is always going to fetch £2k+ more than its little brother.
LC prices 51 reg+ are not too bad, they seem to be holding around £5k reasonably well and considering thats a 6 yr time frame, i dont think they'll depreciate heavily further. LCR will always be priced above this.
Who knows i suppose
LC prices 51 reg+ are not too bad, they seem to be holding around £5k reasonably well and considering thats a 6 yr time frame, i dont think they'll depreciate heavily further. LCR will always be priced above this.
Who knows i suppose
sorry but i cant see the ctr or lcr ever being a classic. they are fast hatchbacks but so what? focus rs is a great car but its another fast hatch back?
rs2000 or mexico wasnt mass produced, powerful, race successful . surely they deserve classic status far more than the three above?
what actually defines a classic?
rs2000 or mexico wasnt mass produced, powerful, race successful . surely they deserve classic status far more than the three above?
what actually defines a classic?
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