k03s on 3bar fpr...and without fmic

[JIMYU]

my k03s arrived from the states today and I'm booked into Impossible Performance next friday for fitting. (£200 for fitting inc gaskets etc and mapping )

Apparently you don't necessarily need a 4bar fpr with a k03s..I was told it depends on the condition of your fuel pump? Is that right?

Also I won't have an fmic for a while,,,thats ok isn't it?

 

[acidstrato]

it's not necessary...but recommended by most tuners it seems

cars run k03s units with a 3bar reg from the factory, LCR for example runs a K04 and a 3bar fpr

 

[blackie]

im huessing your not gonna get it mapped to its full piotentialtto start off with??

Itll be cooking come sumer time mate

 

[JIMYU]

I know I need a fmic to get the most out of the k03s I just can't get it yet. I know it'll heat soak but so does my k03...its still got to be better than that hasn't it?

Is eurocarparts the best place to get the 4bar fpr still?

 

[PhilW]

You need to find out what your map requires. Nothing to do with it running better or not with or without it.


Uspolute map isnt it at Impossible?

 

[Cupra_Jeff]

it's not necessary...but recommended by most tuners it seems

cars run k03s units with a 3bar reg from the factory, LCR for example runs a K04 and a 3bar fpr

yer but a LCR uses 380cc injectors.......

 

[acidstrato]

said it purely as an example

the ibiza 1.8T injectors wont be verging on any limits just because you fitted a k03s and remapped to suit

 

[JIMYU]

Uspolute map isnt it at Impossible?

yeah they offer Upsolute, or a custom remap.

I used to have upsolute but changed to a Mike special after getting dp & race cat etc...it's much better!

 

[Cupra_Jeff]

said it purely as an example

the ibiza 1.8T injectors wont be verging on any limits just because you fitted a k03s and remapped to suit

so why bother with a 4 bar FPR then ?

 

[JIMYU]

thats what I'm thinking...?? I'm tempted not to bother with one...

ps. does anyone know if we can get a euro car parts discount, if i do get one??

 

[PhilW]

I've just told you what to do. You need to find out whether or not your map requires one.

e.g. Revo Stage 2 requires one to up the fuelling as the injectors are pretty much maxed out at the flow rate a 3bar on standard injectors give.

 

[acidstrato]

it is my understanding that Revo stage 2 for example has been developed for a 4bar fpr. revo developed '4bar map' for some models in the past which was replaced with 'stage 2'

the 4bar fpr hold no performance gain or benefit by itself, to put it simple it just regulates fuelling.

 

[PhilW]

It does hold a performance gain when you can map it more agressive to suit the extra flow through the injectors where a 3 bar couldnt flow enough.

 

[JIMYU]

I've just told you what to do. You need to find out whether or not your map requires one.

I had already asked IP, and they said it depends on the condition of my fuel pump...and I've got no reason to believe there's anything wrong with mine.

 

[acidstrato]

the 4bar fpr hold no performance gain or benefit by itself,

the 4bar allows more scope but from logs of injector duty i've looked at in the past for maxed out k03 and k03s tuned ibizas I saw no desperate need for one

its hype to me

 

[Smoki333]

my k03s arrived from the states today and I'm booked into Impossible Performance next friday for fitting. (£200 for fitting inc gaskets etc and mapping )

Apparently you don't necessarily need a 4bar fpr with a k03s..I was told it depends on the condition of your fuel pump? Is that right?

Also I won't have an fmic for a while,,,thats ok isn't it?

£200!!! thats good

Will that be a custom map i take it?
How much do they change for just a custom map then?

 

[JIMYU]

they are only charging me about £50 for tweaking the custom remap I already have...

originally I got upsolute for £150 then when I'd done a few more mods I went back and Mike customised it for an extra £100. Give them a call...

 

[PhilW]

4bar will put more pressure on the fuel pump as its gotta pump 65psi though instead of 45psi, but i cant see your pump being dodgy.

Personally I'd rather have the scope to run more power without maxing out the injectors or them running lean.

 

[m0rk]

the injectors as std don't have the headroom at 3bar to safely run a k03s properly

maybe he doesn't intend it to make any more power than it does now - or maybe he doesn't have the tools/knowledge to adjust the timing of the injectors (more likely)

you do need to ensure that your fuelling is 100% spot on, remember the Ibiza lambda probe isn't wideband....

 

[Cupra_Jeff]

the 4bar allows more scope but from logs of injector duty i've looked at in the past for maxed out k03 and k03s tuned ibizas I saw no desperate need for one

its hype to me

thats rubbish or they wouldn't use a 4 bar FPR would they ?

for example, the LCR injectors flow 380cc @ 3 bar, and 440cc @ 4 bar, 60cc/min of fuel is not exactly a negliable amount is it ? on the whole i'd rather be running slightly rich than lean.....