no none, have hardly driven my car much been working loads using my van! Ill give EBC a call, only thing is cant remember where i got them from!!!
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EBC LCR Brake Discs
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like i said, worth a try can only say no, just think it's short time to kill a set of discs in especially if your not using your car much. hopefully these latest discs me and a few others are usign will last longer
You are confusing a sound with a judder?????
The grooves are what makes the noise, judder is throught the wheel not a noise. All grooved disks make the noise when braking hard and they're hot.
EBC reds are ok, not fabulous but they do stop. DS2500's are in a different league and actually cheaper too. Nice combo would be DS2500 pads and the TG disks as best value stopping.
sounds like they've warped to me.
on another note, you had a chance to post the airbox yet?
You are confusing "noise" and "sounds like" with judder... which is fecking obvious.
Noise is grooves same as any other grooved disk.
TG grooves are wide and noisier when used hard than the eliptical brembo's I have made, but my grooves are not as wide. EBc say they previously had more grooves on the LCR disks but reduced their qty down due to the "noise" feedback they were getting. Maybe narrower grooves would be better.
I've just ordered these EBC TG discs for front and rear, there gonna be teamed up with OMP pads, i am a slightly "spirited"driver and do like to go fast when its safe to do so, i will be bedding these in and then will give them a proper seeing to, will let you know how it all goes!
harsh....
was going by what he was saying and sounded like he was meaning! didn't think it was an english lesson lol. if the brake pedal didn't feel right and he was gettin a juddering then i thought it could be warped. hence my comment.
If he'd of said they make a noise, but still work fine with out a judder i'd of said what you mentioned above about it being the grooves.
Well I phoned up brakes 4 u today (worked out where i got them from) and they said "we are aware of a 'warping' issue with the grooved/drilled discs and therefore i would like to send you free of charge a new set of discs and return postage for the damaged discs!"
I described to him as i did in previous threads and straight away he said that "they are warped mate"
So a 'noise' is more than just the pads passing over the grooves in this case.
I described to him as i did in previous threads and straight away he said that "they are warped mate"
So a 'noise' is more than just the pads passing over the grooves in this case.
Was a bit, didnt think they would want to know! They obviously have had loads of problems and got some sort of returns thing going on with their supplier now so it doesnt bother them not their cost!
Just thought i sent you that air filter in my EBC box- lol
You dont HEAR warped disks FFS, you feel them... Judder throught the steering etc, but you can also get judder from pad pickup too which is also often mistaken for warped disks.
So what exactly did you have?
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Warped discs
Can anyone tell me how easy it is to change the front discs on an '05 (previous model) Leon FR. It looks like there's just a single phillips head countersunk bolt.... is that it ?!?
I think I've warped my standard discs having replaced the pads with EBC Redstuff. I now have a whirring sound that increases with speed and assume this is the warped disc touching the pad every revolution. In any case I have a judder in the steering wheel under braking so the discs need replacing anyway so seems a good place to start on the process of elimination.
Cheers
Richard
Can anyone tell me how easy it is to change the front discs on an '05 (previous model) Leon FR. It looks like there's just a single phillips head countersunk bolt.... is that it ?!?
I think I've warped my standard discs having replaced the pads with EBC Redstuff. I now have a whirring sound that increases with speed and assume this is the warped disc touching the pad every revolution. In any case I have a judder in the steering wheel under braking so the discs need replacing anyway so seems a good place to start on the process of elimination.
Cheers
Richard
Yes that's it, the wheel holds the disk on plus that one screw.
Although you need to move the caliper out the way to remove the disk.
On the main front page under guides I think is a guide to changing pads and disks on an LCR done by some half wit (similar process for the FR set up I guess)
Number86 said:
Aside from the fact I value mine (and my families life) the other reasons for switching to DS2500 were;-
Imporved Bite
Improved Pedal Feel
Less Fade
All of which inspired more confidence in the cars set up
I figured I had done a remap and this upgrade on the braking side was a modification to compliment the extra power.
What I would agree with is that spending closer to £150 on Performance Friction Carbon Metallic pads with standard disks was probably a waste for road use. Too much dust for road use although they were a league above everything else I tried in performance.
This comment always gets to me a little.
Any pad, even the pikey types are going to stop the car (read: have enough power to lock the wheels). The only time you're going to suffer with cheap shite is if you're taking the piss with your driving. Continuous hard braking and acceleration which will then result in fade and lack of stopping power. That in itself is contrary to the initial statement of MAXIMUM safety.
I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, but I just wanted to say, as I've seen the same thing a lot!
might want a replacement screw for disk retaining to hand, and an impact driver to remove it. they often are very tight and or shear off on removal
This comment always gets to me a little.
Any pad, even the pikey types are going to stop the car (read: have enough power to lock the wheels). The only time you're going to suffer with cheap shite is if you're taking the piss with your driving. Continuous hard braking and acceleration which will then result in fade and lack of stopping power. That in itself is contrary to the initial statement of MAXIMUM safety.
I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, but I just wanted to say, as I've seen the same thing a lot!
No - pikey pads simply wont stop the car from repeated high speed braking - simple fact.
LCR is heavy, its powerful and its brakes are worked very hard, so this is muchos heat, and cheapo pads just dont cut the mustard when hot, fading badly.
If you get good milage from your Oe brakes, then why look for something different? Buying a performance car and not using its potential is a waste to some people, and those that use em harder know the std fitment pads are ok for driving miss daisy, but not for spirited B road driving or high speed stops.
I'm not judging peoples driving here.
I speaking from the perspective of someone who has tried all the products I am talking about on the very same type of car we are discussing i.e, an LCR
All products tested by me, at my expense over 10's of thousands of miles.
What did you think of DS2500's when you tested them versus OEM pads?
Hey Ibiza. I wasn't disputing the fact cheap brake combos can't take abuse.
The key word is in the first line of your reply "repeated". I was merely pointing out in order to get fade like that you're gonna have to be driving pretty hard (assuming public roads) so the whole comment about safety for my life and especially family* seems a little, I dunno, weird?
I don't plan on getting super high performance brakes, but nor do I plan on getting the cheapest either, as I know there will be occasions of spirited driving!
I'm nit picking really, it was just that comment. Like I said, I agree in decent brakes, absolutely, and wasn't at all knocking the choices (I'll infact be getting so DS2500's when I'm due up for a change very soon!)
*Safety for high speed driving and FUN driving is a different matter. But when you're talking about family etc I don't think it can go in the same post! That's all
The key word is in the first line of your reply "repeated". I was merely pointing out in order to get fade like that you're gonna have to be driving pretty hard (assuming public roads) so the whole comment about safety for my life and especially family* seems a little, I dunno, weird?
I don't plan on getting super high performance brakes, but nor do I plan on getting the cheapest either, as I know there will be occasions of spirited driving!
I'm nit picking really, it was just that comment. Like I said, I agree in decent brakes, absolutely, and wasn't at all knocking the choices (I'll infact be getting so DS2500's when I'm due up for a change very soon!)
*Safety for high speed driving and FUN driving is a different matter. But when you're talking about family etc I don't think it can go in the same post! That's all
*Safety for high speed driving and FUN driving is a different matter. But when you're talking about family etc I don't think it can go in the same post! That's all
When making an emergency stop (family aboard or not ) then it's nice to have a setup that inspires confidence and Works. You don't want to be in stop/start traffic o a motorway thinking "I have braked hard twice in a row, I wonder if next time i'll stop in time"
I have a serious problem (not with you) but with anyone who buys a 150mph hot hatch, fits Nankangawoowoo tyres, Carboard Brake pads etc......why would anyone buy a £10-£15k car then skimp £25 on a set of pads pads
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