Polo 1.8T! (KO4-023 & standalone ECU)

[MR Ibiza Cupra]

Hi guys, the project is finally started thought i'd give an update!
The old 1.4 fsi engine is out now, im looking to sell it with ecu, gearbox etc, anyone know how much i could get for it? its got 45,000 & Full Vdub history.
Heres the rundown of parts i needed for my 280hp (hopefully) polo:

AYP 1.8t from Seat ibiza
02J Gearbox from Ibiza 5speed
Drive shafts from new skoda fabia TDI
K04-023 turbo, Manifold & pressure Pipe from Audi TT 225.
Custom Intercooler & Turbo inlet pipes
Injectors, 4bar FPR & fuel pump from Audi TT 225
3" MAF housing
Engine Mounts, Gearbox Mounts (OEM from VW)
Engine Support Brackets & console (OEM from VW)
Turbo Oil lines extended to fit because of K04
Front Mount Intercooler - 530 x 234 x 65 mm
Blitz Super sound BOV
3" Blueflame Custom D/P & Exhaust - from Turbo to Back
LINK G3 Stand Alone ECU & display link.

I was originally getting a plug and play ecu, but after ordering I was told its not quite plug n play on the 9N! The engine would run fine but all the tachos in the dash wouldn't & i would have to either get a polo GTI EMS or new LCR EMS or run extra gauges. I wanted a clean standard looking install & didnt want to change my dash, this was a big problem because the only reason I was doing the conversion was because it seemed easy (wrong!).
Then I was really regretting not taking the clocks, keys, ign barrel, ecu, etc from the donor car and I guess alot of people will think I should have gone that route in the first place, but now I am getting a stand alone ecu which can control everything (except VAG diagnostics), I found Thor racing who said they can help me out, The ECU will hook up to everything in the car so I dont have to change any clocks & it comes with a display link (small screen) which tells you everything.
I managed to grab a bargain off ebay for the K04 turbo & manifold last week (£285 & in excellent cond) so I had to get that which ment also getting a few extra bits like the fpr, maf etc.
Im waiting for my parts from VW, should be here on tuesday, then i can get the engine in place!
Then I Will be getting the car towed to BlueFlame for my Exhaust then to THOR Racing to get the ECU fitted & a day on the rollers mapping. Hoping to see 290hp, but i'll be happy with 250 to be honest!
All in the project is costing me £4250... if everything works I saved £3000 rather than paying another company & I have a standalone ecu.
Will be adding photos soon....watch this space!
Looking to race you seat drivers soon, I been taken by them for far too long!
Thanks for reading... any opinions much appreciated!

Interesting lil project... you from London ??? Hope all goes well.

 

[basstard]

there's no delay in dbw...

there is on 1.4 petrol engines,,, my mother has a 2001 1.4 75hp polo and it actually has a delay between when you press the pedal and when the rpm's actually rise,,, it's a pita to drive,,,

 

[ibizacupra]

20vt dont... it was a worry of mine before I bought my cupra, but was pleasently surprised as you cant tell the difference

 

[str8ballin]

ok, thanks for checking.. their website does'nt say its dbw, only stepper motor/idle control.
is this going to run the whole motor complete etc?
not piggy backing at all.

Hi mate, I'm going to bham on monday to see them face to face and confirm everything i need will work with the ecu, im going to confirm about the dbw also.
The ECU can be run piggy back or Stand alone, they said I will be ok with stand alone as the ecu can run everything! Only thing that wont be working is the vag diagnostics, which is not really an issue as it has its own diagnostic software.
My fsi was dbw and you can really notice the delay, guess because of the engine size.
Brembo Bill I seen your website, didnt know your a specialist!
Theres still two things I need to get, a 4bar FPR, & a starter Motor!
I got the injectors & rail from an audi tt - 06A 906 031 BC- injector code, & assumed the fpr on it was 4bar until I just checked!!
I thought the BAM engine has a 4bar fpr... so which engine has it as standard??
Also I never got the starter motor with my gearbox, its an 02J from a 2001 seat ibiza, are the starters specific or are there a variety of cars I can get it from? ETOS shows different codes so im confused!

Many Thanks

 

[basstard]

20vt dont... it was a worry of mine before I bought my cupra, but was pleasently surprised as you cant tell the difference

yeah I know,,, I think it's just the 1.4,,, my tdi is dbw too but the accelerator response is perfect,,, trust me, the delay on the 1.4 makes it very difficult to drive,,,

 

[ibizacupra]

Hi mate, I'm going to bham on monday to see them face to face and confirm everything i need will work with the ecu, im going to confirm about the dbw also.
The ECU can be run piggy back or Stand alone, they said I will be ok with stand alone as the ecu can run everything! Only thing that wont be working is the vag diagnostics, which is not really an issue as it has its own diagnostic software.
My fsi was dbw and you can really notice the delay, guess because of the engine size.
Brembo Bill I seen your website, didnt know your a specialist!
Theres still two things I need to get, a 4bar FPR, & a starter Motor!
I got the injectors & rail from an audi tt - 06A 906 031 BC- injector code, & assumed the fpr on it was 4bar until I just checked!!
I thought the BAM engine has a 4bar fpr... so which engine has it as standard??
Also I never got the starter motor with my gearbox, its an 02J from a 2001 seat ibiza, are the starters specific or are there a variety of cars I can get it from? ETOS shows different codes so im confused!

Many Thanks

I have a spare starter motor or two
£45 and its yours


My car>>

517bhp/485lbft so far

Your polo will be fun & different.
regards
bill

 

[Craig!]

Stand alone you can also loose all your dash functions, clocks, mpg, etc... Find out exactly what you will loose and decide whether its worth it. I'd be tempted to still go VW management its honestly not that hard to sort out!

 

[str8ballin]

I have a spare starter motor or two
£45 and its yours


My car>>

517bhp/485lbft so far

Your polo will be fun & different.
regards
bill

Oh S**t that is crazy!!! I am well impressed, 517hp!!! I take it its a track car only!
do you have a 02A 911 023LX starter motor for me???

 

[str8ballin]

Stand alone you can also loose all your dash functions, clocks, mpg, etc... Find out exactly what you will loose and decide whether its worth it. I'd be tempted to still go VW management its honestly not that hard to sort out!

Hi, since I have put my topic up on the net alot of people are telling me to still consider OEM management.
Can I look for say an S3 ecu, keys & ignition barrel for my AYP engine? Or would I need the seat ECU?
Can I get any 1.8t ecu, key etc from a fairly new VW so all the inside luxuries still function?
Am i well off or is this possible??
I can get hold of the ecu and other bits i need from either an S3, 04 ibiza 1.8t or Leon cupra r.....any compatible?
Craig, Brembo Bill HELP!!!!
Thanks!

 

[nick s]

517bhp!!! shi*t bill! that's insane, what's it like for traction?

 

[Craig!]

... can you say wheel spin?

 

[ibizacupra]

517bhp!!! shi*t bill! that's insane, what's it like for traction?

on road tryes its optional

 

[cupra1.8t]

lol at brembo bill thats insane and i bet thirsty