Superchips - FR 170 TDi remap - 213bhp !!!!

[spuds]

RICA have had 100% reliable software for the 170 since last year!!

Krzys.

 

[k4ith]

checked the rica website and and against the seat leon 170 it shows the mk1 as a pic? so its not the current mk2 FR, does anyone here have the mk2 mapped?

 

[spuds]

Yes me! I have the new one remapped.

Check the UK site - http://www.chiptuninguk.com/chiptuning/frames.asp

Krzys.

 

[devonmikeyboy]

The PD170 has a bigger turbo, bigger injectors and a completely different ECU by a different manufacturer among other things.

PD140 turbo is a GT1749V
PD170 turbo is a GT1749VM
So they are the same size.

Injectors are a different design with the PD170 having new piezo cystal injectors with six injection holes where as the PD 140 are none piezo cystal design with five injection holes. The PD170 injecttors are not bigger but more efficent in how they work.

ECU is different because you have different sensors on the car for thing like a stupid DPF that the EDC 16 ECU on the PD140 where not desighed for.

 

[hangten0]

Yes me! I have the new one remapped.

Check the UK site - http://www.chiptuninguk.com/chiptuning/frames.asp

Krzys.

nearly got 10k on the clock so quite tempted on getting mine done, how are you finding yours (any niggles) and what was the cost ? cheers

 

[k4ith]

Seat Leon 2.0 TDi 140 - NEW
stnd bhp - 140 mapped - 180
stnd torq - 320 new - 395

Seat Leon 2.0 TDi 170 - NEW
bhp 170 new 204
torque 350 new 410

 

[richpaul]

PD140 turbo is a GT1749V
PD170 turbo is a GT1749VM
So they are the same size.

Injectors are a different design with the PD170 having new piezo cystal injectors with six injection holes where as the PD 140 are none piezo cystal design with five injection holes. The PD170 injecttors are not bigger but more efficent in how they work.

ECU is different because you have different sensors on the car for thing like a stupid DPF that the EDC 16 ECU on the PD140 where not desighed for.

If the only difference you say is of efficiency, then where does the extra 30hp come from? Its there before and after mapping. Even with the DPF.
The chaps at Revo say its because the turbo is bigger, and the injectors do flow more fuel. There is no other explanation. More fuel and air means more power.

 

[k4ith]

more power means more soot then? quicker clogging DPF, if it cant burn it off then problems would occur? i am no expert just going by what i have read.

 

[richpaul]

more power means more soot then? quicker clogging DPF, if it cant burn it off then problems would occur? i am no expert just going by what i have read.

I agree. If you do mostly short journeys with lots of stop/starts, you are pushing the DPF limits already; so an ecu upgrade will probably push it over the edge and cause you problems.
Whereas motorway drivers will burn off the excess soot.

 

[k4ith]

when i was getting my suspension fitted the guy was telling me the exhausts can glow red with the heat, he has cancelled his audi 170tdi that was on order, thinks vag have made a mistake with the 170tdi engines.

 

[richpaul]

Unfortunately, the law states that all new diesels have to have a DPF.
I actually like mine, keep the chrome tail pipe clean, it looks like a petrol car from the back, even under acceleration. Its the main reason I bought this car, but then I mainly drive on the motorway.

 

[Tam]

Unfortunately, the law states that all new diesels have to have a DPF.

What .?????

First i've heard of it, not to mention the only car in the seat range with a dpf is the 170 and they have at least 3 other diesel's in the range which are non-dpf !

 

[devonmikeyboy]

If the only difference you say is of efficiency, then where does the extra 30hp come from? Its there before and after mapping. Even with the DPF.
The chaps at Revo say its because the turbo is bigger, and the injectors do flow more fuel. There is no other explanation. More fuel and air means more power.

The extra power is mostly from a more efficent burn but they do flow more diesel as well so i was wrong in what i typed due to the fact of having more holes then the PD140 injectors. The turbo is not bigger though so if the guy at Revo told you that until i get shown proof otherwise he is wrong and i have the part numbers to prove it.

Turbo Part number OEM part number
GT1749V 724930-0008 03G 253 014H PD140
GTB1749VM 757042-0010 03G 257 019 PD170

The PD170 engine is also less fuel efficent then the earlier PD140 model.

Pferdestärken* 140
Engine cubic capacity 2000
Fuel Consumption
Urban 41.5mpg - 6.8l/100km
Extra-urban 60.1mpg - 4.7l/100km
Combined 51.4mpg - 5.5l/100km
Engine emissions 145g/km
Engine noise levels 72.0dB
Engine maximum Speed** 127mph - 203km/h
Engine acceleration 0-62mph 9.3secs
Maximum output PS 140
at RPM 4000
Maximum torque 236 lbs.ft / 320 Nm
at RPM 1750
Insurance group rating 13

Pferdestärken* 170
Engine cubic capacity 1968
Fuel Consumption
Urban 36.2mpg - 7.8l/100km
Extra-urban 58.9mpg - 4.8l/100km
Combined 47.9mpg - 5.9l/100km
Engine emissions 156g/km
Engine noise levels 73.0dB
Engine maximum Speed** 137mph - 220km/h
Engine acceleration 0-62mph 8.2secs
Maximum output PS 170
at RPM 4200
Maximum torque 258 lbs.ft / 350 Nm
at RPM 2000
Insurance group rating 16

Personally i am not that keen on the PD170 engine as you are starting to get in petrol mpg territory with couple thousand higher price tag and dearer fuel and insurance getting nearly as dear as driving a petrol then you have the dreaded DPF that tells you how to drive the car .

 

[wrc]

hi all, have been reading all this, & i can say that i,m running the superchips remap on my 04 leon cupra tdi 150.
i have never had a problem with it at all, ( no clutch slip ) & i got a 12mths warrenty with mine. had the remap on for 10 mths now, & i have had 2 rr days & both where within a cats whiskas away, but 197 bhp was the top.

i would reccomend them.

 

[BanziBarn]

hi all, have been reading all this, & i can say that i,m running the superchips remap on my 04 leon cupra tdi 150.
i have never had a problem with it at all, ( no clutch slip ) & i got a 12mths warrenty with mine. had the remap on for 10 mths now, & i have had 2 rr days & both where within a cats whiskas away, but 197 bhp was the top.

i would reccomend them.

But the issue here is the particulate filter which could block up which is specific to the PD170. The old 1.9s didn't have this, and neither does the 2.0 PD140 hecne why you're remap has been fine.

 

[spuds]

nearly got 10k on the clock so quite tempted on getting mine done, how are you finding yours (any niggles) and what was the cost ? cheers

No niggles at all. Cost me £470 all inc.

Krzys.