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Bluetooth stereos

Hi all, just a quick question....

Does anyone have one of these that would care to share an opinion on them?

I currently have a parrot ck3100, which is great, although I would prefer something slightly more stealthy....(and kill two birds with one stone by getting a better stereo to boot!!)

What does everyone think of these? are they any better/worse than my parrot call wise etc etc

Any thoughts appreciated!!

Cheers :)
 

Danbo

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Ive got a Pioneer P55BT which is superb. Only £175 from CAD and its really good. Very pleased with it.

Phonecalls are easy to make, the mic is very clear and the headunit sounds great too. Cant be beaten for the price and functionality.
 

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I have limited experience with some of them, and I've also got a Parrot 3200LS Colour in my car and have just fitted a CK3100 to my other halves car, so I'll try and base it around facts you can relate too :)

Ok... firstly the biggest issue with the majority of the Bluetooth head units is the limited phonebook storage on the unit itself. Some of them simply synchronise your recent call lists (last 10 made, received, missed calls)... some of them allow you to send it your favourite X number of contacts (usually around 25-30) and very few of them allow you to fully synchronise your phone contact list so you have access to all of them from the head unit.

For me, the whole point of having a Bluetooth car kit is that I never need access to my phone while driving again. So if I'm limited to the number of people I can call, I'm slightly put off. Just my opinion though and you and others may differ, of course :)

Secondly, there is the issue of call quality. There are two sides to this... how you sound to the person at the other end, and how they sound to you.
9 times out of 10 they will sound great. Crystal clear, no unwanted noise, easy to follow. Sorted. BUT - It's often a different matter when it comes to how you sound to them. Some (most) of the current units have the microphone built into the head unit, which isn't ideal as your voice is not directed at that point. This means it tends to make you sound distant and also picks up too much unwanted background noise. Not ideal really.

Lastly, there is ease of use. Generally speaking, this is 'fine' with all units. It can be fiddly at first, but as with everything you get used to where the buttons are and what they do fairly quickly so it's not a huge problem. But my advice would be play with each unit in the flesh before deciding, as it's important you feel comfortable with it :)

Sony, Pioneer, Kenwood, Alpine, Becker and Parrot themselves all make Bluetooth equipped head units, so you have plenty of choice. Be aware though that Alpine and Kenwood options are via an external box, which adds to the installation. I've not seen the Alpine solution in the flesh, but I've seen the Kenwood and that has an external microphone much like your current Parrot kit, so that's a big plus in my opinion.

In my personal opinion, there is no ideal combined Bluetooth car kit and headunit yet. They are getting there, but currently each of them have their Pros and Cons that all add up to not being ideal.
 
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I have limited experience with some of them, and I've also got a Parrot 3200LS Colour in my car and have just fitted a CK3100 to my other halves car, so I'll try and base it around facts you can relate too :)

Ok... firstly the biggest issue with the majority of the Bluetooth head units is the limited phonebook storage on the unit itself. Some of them simply synchronise your recent call lists (last 10 made, received, missed calls)... some of them allow you to send it your favourite X number of contacts (usually around 25-30) and very few of them allow you to fully synchronise your phone contact list so you have access to all of them from the head unit.

For me, the whole point of having a Bluetooth car kit is that I never need access to my phone while driving again. So if I'm limited to the number of people I can call, I'm slightly put off. Just my opinion though and you and others may differ, of course :)

Secondly, there is the issue of call quality. There are two sides to this... how you sound to the person at the other end, and how they sound to you.
9 times out of 10 they will sound great. Crystal clear, no unwanted noise, easy to follow. Sorted. BUT - It's often a different matter when it comes to how you sound to them. Some (most) of the current units have the microphone built into the head unit, which isn't ideal as your voice is not directed at that point. This means it tends to make you sound distant and also picks up too much unwanted background noise. Not ideal really.

Lastly, there is ease of use. Generally speaking, this is 'fine' with all units. It can be fiddly at first, but as with everything you get used to where the buttons are and what they do fairly quickly so it's not a huge problem. But my advice would be play with each unit in the flesh before deciding, as it's important you feel comfortable with it :)

Sony, Pioneer, Kenwood, Alpine, Becker and Parrot themselves all make Bluetooth equipped head units, so you have plenty of choice. Be aware though that Alpine and Kenwood options are via an external box, which adds to the installation. I've not seen the Alpine solution in the flesh, but I've seen the Kenwood and that has an external microphone much like your current Parrot kit, so that's a big plus in my opinion.

In my personal opinion, there is no ideal combined Bluetooth car kit and headunit yet. They are getting there, but currently each of them have their Pros and Cons that all add up to not being ideal.

Cheers Rob, thanks for all the info, very informative!!:funk:

The issue I have with my parrot is that people have trouble hearing me, even with the mic volume right up, so wondered if these were better!!
 

Danbo

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The Pioneer HUs come with a separate mic to be mounted at the top of the A pillar. The sound comes through much better than I expected it to.
 

BrianGB

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Hi. I have a Becker hu. The number of contacts is indeed limited, but serves the purpose for me. Clarity is superb at both ends of the conversation. Ease of use is no different to selecting any command on the head unit. Also the upgrade from the standard h/u is a bonus. However, the fit into a Leon console looks like factory fit and you can colour match the red to all the other dials etc. Highly recommended
 

RobM

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Andy - If people are having trouble hearing you, even with the Mic volume turned up, I'd suggest it was the location of the Mic that needs to be adjusted.

FWIW... mine is at the top of the A pillar, closer to the door than the windscreen, and mine works well. The other place I did think of mounting it was in front of the instrument cluster, by the dials. That's pretty much where the throw of your voice is aimed, so might be worth a try?
 
Yeah I did think that...mine is top of A pillar too.....

might try relocating it....

Truth is I just want a new stereo I guess!!! but thought it would be neater having both in one.....

:lol:
 

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Hi. I have a Becker hu. The number of contacts is indeed limited, but serves the purpose for me. Clarity is superb at both ends of the conversation. Ease of use is no different to selecting any command on the head unit. Also the upgrade from the standard h/u is a bonus. However, the fit into a Leon console looks like factory fit and you can colour match the red to all the other dials etc. Highly recommended

I have the Becker also, I'm very happy with it.

An ipod connection is available too, I have this and its great, artist and track name is displayed on the head unit, great piece of kit. :D

Neil.
 

olaf

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Neil - how easy is it to navigate through the songs on your Ipod via the Becker unit? Where have you ran the Ipod lead to?
 

Neil_Ireland

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Its very easy, the knob on the right of the headunit scrolls thru the menu's, press the same knob to select.
I had a cd changer in the glovebox which I replaced, I put the blanking piece in and have the Ipod in there.

Neil.
 

RobM

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The beauty of Becker's is they are very easy to use and very consistent. Browsing through an MP3 CD is the same as a CD changer which is the same as an iPod :)
 

Wackojacko

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Ive got a Pioneer DEH-P75BT and it is Fantastic. I've got the ipod adaptor with it as well. Works very well with all the phones i've had. Got the Ipod adaptor with it aswell, so can browse Ipod and make phone calls at the same time !!
 
Check the bluetooth on your phone is compatable with the headunit, there are 4 revisions of BT out now. I work for a mobile phone providers technical team and we are getting loads of people with blue tooth headunits and car manufactures bluetooth hands free kits that are not compatable with certain phones.
 

rb5

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Ive got the pioneer 75 last week. Seems v good but it wont accept my phones address book (K800i) at the moment - it seems to disconnect every time I select the transfer option on the head unit? Wacko - how did you do yours?
 

RobM

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www.caraudiodirect.co.uk

On the top right hand corner there is a drop down menu with the various brands they sell, simply chose Becker from that :)

So you know, as a rough guide, the Indianapolis Pro offers navigation, Bluetooth, MP3/WMA and everything else a quality unit should. The Grand Prix is similar but with no navigation. The model numbers (7992 for instance) relate to the illumination colour, but the spec of the unit itself doesn't change throughout the range.
 
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