Anything I should be checking for before it expires? It's going into the stealers next week for a steering rack so if there's any other common issues I should be looking out for, I'd sooner they had a look at them now!
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I would get the MOT done at the dealers at the same time it is in and for anything it fails on just say "Then fix it under warrenty please". Okay not everything will be covered if it is wear and tear but for other stuff.
I did this on the Celica and it worked a treat. Had an advisory on the brake discs, but got the fronts replaced under warrenty and the rears skimmed. All I did was pay for new pads, they didn't force me to but I know you should change them when you get the disks replaced.
I did this on the Celica and it worked a treat. Had an advisory on the brake discs, but got the fronts replaced under warrenty and the rears skimmed. All I did was pay for new pads, they didn't force me to but I know you should change them when you get the disks replaced.
Hmm - conflicting forum advice there then... I had it booked for its MoT at the same time but everyone said I was mad for having it MoT'd at the dealers and pointed me at cheaper places... *sigh*
alex1
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Definitely get the dealer to do the MOT. Then if they pick anything up they do not have any excuse not to replace under warrenty.
The option of going to a cheaper place is sound advice IF the car is no longer covered, as any issues identified will have to be covered by you anyway.
That said there is an issue with VAG ABS pumps. There is another thread on this forum relating to an ESP fault, which is actually the same. The VAG abs pumps are a real problem with internal control module failures. You cannot do anything to spot it early, they just pack up and put a fault code out which disables the abs (big safety issue) and lights the dash light. Just google VW abs pump and you'll see that all VAG models are affected (Seat, VW, Audi, Skoda). The big issue with this is the cost - £1500
to replace. The problems actually lie in the electronic control module, but the whole thing is sold as a composite component by VAG, hence the cost. The best protection against this is to extend the warranty if possible, or swap the car. 
Everything else is pretty much solid and is only subject to wear and tear - I'm not aware of any other component failures or specific issues, beyond regular niggles, eg. dash rattle, wet windows on the inside etc.
Sorry for the bad news on the abs pump, but at least forwarned is fore armed.
AL
The option of going to a cheaper place is sound advice IF the car is no longer covered, as any issues identified will have to be covered by you anyway.
That said there is an issue with VAG ABS pumps. There is another thread on this forum relating to an ESP fault, which is actually the same. The VAG abs pumps are a real problem with internal control module failures. You cannot do anything to spot it early, they just pack up and put a fault code out which disables the abs (big safety issue) and lights the dash light. Just google VW abs pump and you'll see that all VAG models are affected (Seat, VW, Audi, Skoda). The big issue with this is the cost - £1500
to replace. The problems actually lie in the electronic control module, but the whole thing is sold as a composite component by VAG, hence the cost. The best protection against this is to extend the warranty if possible, or swap the car. Everything else is pretty much solid and is only subject to wear and tear - I'm not aware of any other component failures or specific issues, beyond regular niggles, eg. dash rattle, wet windows on the inside etc.
Sorry for the bad news on the abs pump, but at least forwarned is fore armed.
AL
Yep the MOT at the main dealers is usually full price but to be honest the price of an MOT is what it costs the garage to actually do it in labour, anything under this price is possibly being subsidized elsewhere.
I'm not fully up on the rules of MOTs as I rarely keep cars long enough, but seem to remember the retest rules changed recently and that you only get a limited time to have a free retest and only on certain items.
You'd need to take the car for its MOT, if it failed on a warrenty item get it fixed at the main dealer (who probably couldn't book you in straight away) and then take it back to the MOT station within a certain time (might have been 24 hours), otherwise you need a full retest which is the full cost again.
I stand to be corrected though as I've only had 1 MOT in the last 11 years.
I'm not fully up on the rules of MOTs as I rarely keep cars long enough, but seem to remember the retest rules changed recently and that you only get a limited time to have a free retest and only on certain items.
You'd need to take the car for its MOT, if it failed on a warrenty item get it fixed at the main dealer (who probably couldn't book you in straight away) and then take it back to the MOT station within a certain time (might have been 24 hours), otherwise you need a full retest which is the full cost again.
I stand to be corrected though as I've only had 1 MOT in the last 11 years.
SEATgod
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Hello You can get the ABS control module and the hydraulic modulator seperate.
The fault does not lie in the control module, it lies with the pressure sensor in the hydraulic module.
In an accident your ABS will attempt to work, it is not diasbled...same as airbags!
The illumation does not signify the system will not work, it signifies it may not work correctly when required!
Take it to the Dealer, should have no issues with a repair!
As for MOT's if the work is completed at the MOT centre, they only test the system / item the vehicle failed on.
If you take the vehicle away, it is a full retest at full cost.......normally!
Places like MOTest can afford (and do) to give you a weeks grace etc on retests!
The fault does not lie in the control module, it lies with the pressure sensor in the hydraulic module.
In an accident your ABS will attempt to work, it is not diasbled...same as airbags!
The illumation does not signify the system will not work, it signifies it may not work correctly when required!
Take it to the Dealer, should have no issues with a repair!
As for MOT's if the work is completed at the MOT centre, they only test the system / item the vehicle failed on.
If you take the vehicle away, it is a full retest at full cost.......normally!
Places like MOTest can afford (and do) to give you a weeks grace etc on retests!
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alex1
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Sounds like Seat may have a different appraoch to the ABS pump than VW. VW definitely don't split the unit, see this forum and thread
http://www.clubtouran.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3342
I own a 1.9 Altea and 1.9 Touran, when I collected the Touran (new 2 weeks ago) there was a chap going bonkers as his Touran was 2 weeks out of warrenty and VW would not help out at all and he was facing a £1600 bill for replacement unit. When I got home I searched the web and saw the horror strories and noted that my Touran and Altea, and incidentally the Leon I had last week as a loner from Seat all shared the same VAG part number and pump.
Happy to be corrected though as it would put my mind at rest. Do you have the part numbers for the separate components? I'll post them on the other forum to help out a lot of folks.
Cheers
Al
http://www.clubtouran.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3342
I own a 1.9 Altea and 1.9 Touran, when I collected the Touran (new 2 weeks ago) there was a chap going bonkers as his Touran was 2 weeks out of warrenty and VW would not help out at all and he was facing a £1600 bill for replacement unit. When I got home I searched the web and saw the horror strories and noted that my Touran and Altea, and incidentally the Leon I had last week as a loner from Seat all shared the same VAG part number and pump.
Happy to be corrected though as it would put my mind at rest. Do you have the part numbers for the separate components? I'll post them on the other forum to help out a lot of folks.
Cheers
Al
SEATgod
Guest
There are too many numbners to state them all!
They all depend on your PR codes (build data).
There will be diffrences for brake size, ESP, EDL, EBA, tyre pressure monitoring etc etc.
Kind regards.
They all depend on your PR codes (build data).
There will be diffrences for brake size, ESP, EDL, EBA, tyre pressure monitoring etc etc.
Kind regards.
alex1
Guest
apologies to OP, not going to hijack thread any more, but just want to clarify:
If you can get the ABS control module and the hydraulic modulator seperate, could you give an indicative cost of each part. Apprciate there may be lots of part numbers based on engine code etc, but it would be good to have an indicative cost of each component, eg. ABS control module costs between x and y, hydraulic modulator costs between a and b.
I think we agree that this is a widespread issue that op and all VAG vehicle owners should be aware of? So it would be good to know what costs might be likely if one part of the setup fails. After all, if the ABS light illuminates on my dash I would not risk leaving it because "The illumation does not signify the system will not work, it signifies it may not work correctly when required!" I wouldn't be prepared to run the risk!
It would definitely help the VW forum and the other thread originator, regarding ESP failure, and actually may sway decisions on extending warrenties.
Thanks
Al
If you can get the ABS control module and the hydraulic modulator seperate, could you give an indicative cost of each part. Apprciate there may be lots of part numbers based on engine code etc, but it would be good to have an indicative cost of each component, eg. ABS control module costs between x and y, hydraulic modulator costs between a and b.
I think we agree that this is a widespread issue that op and all VAG vehicle owners should be aware of? So it would be good to know what costs might be likely if one part of the setup fails. After all, if the ABS light illuminates on my dash I would not risk leaving it because "The illumation does not signify the system will not work, it signifies it may not work correctly when required!" I wouldn't be prepared to run the risk!
It would definitely help the VW forum and the other thread originator, regarding ESP failure, and actually may sway decisions on extending warrenties.
Thanks
Al
SEATgod
Guest
PM me your chassis number and I will give you a BASIC cost for CU, hydraulic unit and complete ASSY!
based on your vehicle sepc!!
Kind regards
based on your vehicle sepc!!
Kind regards
alex1
Guest
sorry mate not too keen on pm'ing personal vehicle data - please don't take offence. I was just trying to highliught the issue and costs others are experiencing. Just something for everybody to be aware of - especially if they are not covered by warrenty.
As mentioned an indicative cost would be good, based on a car with ABS, tyre pressure monitor, ESP, 1.9 engine, stock stylance car.
If this doesn't provide sufficient detail then I'll leave it for the OP to check out indicative costs when they take there car in for rack and MOT.
Thanks
Al
As mentioned an indicative cost would be good, based on a car with ABS, tyre pressure monitor, ESP, 1.9 engine, stock stylance car.
If this doesn't provide sufficient detail then I'll leave it for the OP to check out indicative costs when they take there car in for rack and MOT.
Thanks
Al
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