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damienwright

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Anyone have any ideas what the following could be ?
I have an 07 Leon Reference 1.9 TDI

I was leaving work this evening and as I pulled out of the car park the ABS, Power steering, TCS, and a couple of other fault lights came on and the needles started jumping around weirdly. I pulled over and turn off the ignition and turned it back on. All the warning lights remain on but the engine fires and then stalls immediately. If I leave the keys in the ignition without the engine on the fans spin up to max speed almost immediately and there are a number of beeps from the instrument cluster.

I ran VCDS and it gave the following :-


Monday,09,June,2014,20:43:52:09065
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20140212


VIN: XXXX License Plate: XXXX
Mileage: 118600km-73694mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1P (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56

VIN: XXXX Mileage: 118600km/73694miles

01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 5P0 820 047 K
Component: Climatic PQ35 012 0505
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 354FFA535C621FB6781-8060

2 Faults Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AD HW: 3C0 937 049 AD
Component: Bordnetz-SG H52 2002
Revision: 00H52000 Serial number: 00000004576373
Coding: 00080D2F00041000431D00000000000000017B075C4000
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 6BFB1C2B4AA699465E5-803E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1P0 955 119 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 191206 022 0601
Coding: 00056208
Shop #: WSC 06402

4 Faults Found:
00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BK HW: 1K0 953 549 BK
Component: J0527 051 0101
Coding: 0003022
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 7CD92F773FC80EFEC7F-8029

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1P0 920 904 C
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VO3 0422
Coding: 0002401
Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
VCID: 2C79DF378F285E7E17F-8079

4 Faults Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
004 - No Signal/Communication
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H12 0170
Revision: H12 Serial number: 3300106C040BB0
Coding: 3D0F034007000203
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 2F43C83BBE3E256632D-807A

3 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
014 - Defective

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1P0 920 904 C
Component: IMMO VO3 0422
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2C79DF378F285E7E17F-8079

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 F HW: 1K0 959 793 L
Component: J386 TUER-SG FT 1130
Revision: 32008001 Serial number: 00000095669109
Coding: 0000560
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 3A55E96F757CF0CE953-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 CP
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 98E000CC7F000D0F485B861004CC
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 8021DB87D320EA1E1B7-80D5

Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1P0 951 171
Component: Innenraumueberw.010 4971
Coding: 00000000
Shop #: WSC 00000

Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

Subsystem 7 - Component: NGS n.mounted

2 Faults Found:
01135 - Interior Monitoring Sensors
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 F HW: 1K0 959 792 L
Component: J387 TUER-SG BT 1130
Revision: 32008001 Serial number: 00000075169031
Coding: 0000560
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 3B5BEC6B7A46C9C68E5-806E

No fault code found.

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The last scan a couple of months ago showed a few errors like the bulb warning but all other control modules were reporting ok.

Seems like some of the Can bus has failed but any ideas where to start looking ?
It may be coincidental but earlier in the year when it was damp I was having intermittent issues with the PAS system flashing on randomly. I read that this can be caused by corrosion in the PAS ECU but could this explain the other issues ? i.e. causing a ground on the can bus signal line or something ?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Best regards,

Damien.
 
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damienwright

Guest
Ok.
I have checked all fuses and relays in the main engine bay fuse box and the driver side dashboard fuse box. It appears someone has 'substituted' in some higher rated fuses in a few of the slots before I bought the car but all fuses and relays have been swapped and the fault persists.

I have disconnected head unit, and HID headlights + Can bus suppressors for the lights. These now show as fault codes in addition to the previous ones so the Can gateway etc is still functional. I have inspected all wiring I can see and cannot spot any obvious signs of issues. Interestingly before opening the bonnet I had passenger side wiper working and drivers not. Now neither are working. Car still starts and runs for around 1.5 seconds so what next ?

Does anyone know where the power steering control module is located ? My suspicion is it will be something either in the ecu or the wiring to this based on the previous issue I mentioned regarding intermittent PAS warning light a couple of months ago. Also could this be the control module in the steering column ? This was replaced a couple of years ago when cruise control was retro fitted not sure if that is significant or if the wiring could have come loose ?

VCDS Version: Release 12.12.2 (x64)
Data version: 20140212

Wednesday,11,June,2014,20:40:37:09065

Chassis Type: 1P (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56

VIN: xxxx Mileage: 118600km/73694miles

01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 1010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 5P0 820 047 K
Component: Climatic PQ35 012 0505
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 354FFA535C621FB6781-8060

2 Faults Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AD HW: 3C0 937 049 AD
Component: Bordnetz-SG H52 2002
Revision: 00H52000 Serial number: 00000004576373
Coding: 00080D2F00041000431D00000000000000017B075C4000
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 6BFB1C2B4AA699465E5-803E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1P0 955 119 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 191206 022 0601
Coding: 00056208
Shop #: WSC 06402

10 Faults Found:
00984 - Left Tail Light (M4)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 104
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 11.45 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

00906 - Horn (H1)
009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 144
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:
OFF
Voltage: 11.95 V
OFF
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01495 - Bulb for High-Beams; Left (M30)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 104
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 11.50 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01499 - Bulb for High-Beams; Right (M32)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 104
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 11.50 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 104
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 11.95 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 104
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 11.55 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 104
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 11.40 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 104
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 11.40 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

00154 - Windshield Wiper Motor; Passenger Side (V217)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 23
Reset counter: 104
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 11.40 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 104
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 11.40 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF


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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BK HW: 1K0 953 549 BK
Component: J0527 051 0101
Coding: 0003022
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
VCID: 7CD92F773FC80EFEC7F-8029

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0010

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1P0 920 904 C
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VO3 0422
Coding: 0002401
Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
VCID: 2C79DF378F285E7E17F-8079

5 Faults Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
004 - No Signal/Communication
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
004 - No Signal/Communication
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H12 0170
Revision: H12 Serial number: 3300106C040BB0
Coding: 3D0F034007000203
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 2F43C83BBE3E256632D-807A

4 Faults Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 9
Reset counter: 104
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:16:48

01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 104
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:16:49

01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 144
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:19:29

01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 144
Mileage: 118605 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 21:24:36


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 CP
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 98E000CC7F000D0F485B861004CC
Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
VCID: 8021DB87D320EA1E1B7-80D5

Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1P0 951 171
Component: Innenraumueberw.010 4971
Coding: 00000000
Shop #: WSC 00000

Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

Subsystem 7 - Component: NGS n.mounted

2 Faults Found:
01135 - Interior Monitoring Sensors
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
013 - Check DTC Memory
 

damienwright

Guest
Sorry for the bump but anyone any ideas ?
I cant get hold of a mobile auto electrician until at least Monday afternoon and they want £80 just to read the diagnostic port which I already did :|

Best regards,

Damien.
 
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