Upgreade stereo to rns310 or 315 ?

[SNAP-ON]

I have an late 04 altea 2.0tdi sport with the standard crap stereo . I was going for the aftermarket route of a dvd clarion/jvc/pioneer double din but by the time you buy the stereo , leads , fitting kit etc it works out expensive as i want to keep steering wheel controls etc .
Been looking at used rns 310 or 315 but not sure what the difference is between them apart from 310 is europe maps and 315 us ???
will either go straight in with nothing extra needed apart from the facia trim as u can get either for £250-300 used . I just want to remove old and plug one straight in and for it to work .
I phoned seat and for price on a sat nav facia trim and he said my car comes up saying it has sat nav but it doesnt lol . Ive read some people have to use vag com to change settings etc ?
Now before anyone says get the 510 i would love to but dont have the money lol

 

[Viking]

RNS310 is an older version head unit with a lower quality screen, while the RNS315 is better screen and much newer. The differences are internal as both look pretty much the same, but they're very different beasts overall (once you get past the visual side of things).

You say £250 - £300 for an RNS310/315. You could spend another £100 or so and have the RNS510, which is a much better unit really.

Whatever unit you fit (OEM) you'll need VCDS to enable the Nav functions properly though, and you'll need an aerial adapter ond GPS antenna also (about £15 for both).

£410 will get you an RNS510 fitted and coded with both adapters, and all you'll need to supply is the trim surround.

 

[SNAP-ON]

Ok thanks for reply .
Ive started looking for the 510 now but would a skoda or vw one fit as not many seat ones out there ?
Ive found some on ebay which are from 2012 onwards and are the led ones with v11 sat nav software but read that 2007 onwards 510 can drain battery etc and i dont have access to vag com . The only vag com based scanner i have is a snap on which has vag com in expert mode but doesnt give the same vag com menus so i would need to know measuring blocks etc etc

 

[Viking]

To be honest you're better off going for a VW branded one as the Seat ones are built without the SD card reader. More penny pinching from the spaniards, eh. The only other difference is the splash screen which says VW rather than Seat, and some colour changes to the menu systems perhaps.

The battery drain issue is more to do with the car than the RNS unit. Earlier cars had a non compatible can gateway which meant the RNS unit didn't shut down properly when you left the car and locked it, and it stayed active and drained the battery slowly. Changing the gateway for a newer version cures the problem, or I apply a software fix which also cures it (much cheaper).

Once the unit is fitted you need to code the Can gateway to tell the car you have a Nav unit fitted, and a couple of other things as well., but not really anything complicated. Not sure if you could do that with Snap On tool.

 

[SNAP-ON]

From your knowlege are you able to supply these 510s ? I have seen a couple of the vw ones on the bay which which have the battery drain issue done and also movies on the move etc with v10 nav sofware which i might go for . Just wondering how much my local dealer will charge to do vag com set up for nav

 

[Viking]

I have a couple in stock at the moment mate. But I dunno whereabouts you are in relation to me.

 

[SNAP-ON]

As always miles away lol im down south coast !

 

[Viking]

Well, what I suggest you do is connect up your Snap On tool and see if you can access the Can Gateway, either the installed list or the long coding section. If you can then you're nearly there as far as coding goes. I've not got details in front of me but the Gateway installation list will have something like 60 or 70 tick boxes, and each one will be specific to what's installed on your car. You'll have a blank tick box next to Navigation which you need to put a tick in. Then save it. After that you should be able to access the Nav unit on its own controller where you can select the options you have on your car such as steering wheel controls and what have you. Only takes a few minutes with VCDS. After that it's all mechanically connecting and fitting the unit.

Oh, and while you're in there if you can find the part number of the actual can gateway then you should be able to tell whether or not you'll have battery drain issues.

 

[SNAP-ON]

Ok will do . Ive just searched for vag com and control module 19 is for can and 37 for nav so will see what i can access in these via snap on scanner . What do you sell the units for ?

 

[Viking]

I sent you a PM, did you get it?

 

[SNAP-ON]

Yep just got it

 

[SNAP-ON]

Do you know which measureing blocks i need to look at when im in module 19 for can gateway and 37 for navigation . Or what numbers i need to erase or put in or is it tick boxes ?

 

[Viking]

VCDS has access to the Can Gateway installation list (in controller 19). It's a long list of check boxes and each one is relevant to a certain function or accessory in the car. I don't know if you can access that with Snap On. It's nothing to do with the measuring blocks though, you need to be looking for adaption or coding.

 

[SNAP-ON]

Hi Viking , right ive been playing with the snap on verdict and it does have vag com on it . ive been into can gateway 19 and gateway is 1k0907530c which looking at ross tech site doesn't seem a compatible number to work with the 510 and will require update ? is that expensive ?
ive also tried getting into navigation 37 on auto detect but I suppose as I don't have a nav fitted it cant find it ? once your in these modules there are lots of boxes to visit ie read codes , coding , special functions , long coding etc etc

 

[Viking]

You'll best be updating the gateway mate really. 7N0907530AF is the part number you need to be looking at for full functionality of all other protocols. As you have now managed to access controller 18 (can gateway) can you access the installation list? If so then just make a note of all the installed components of your old gateway first, then replace the gateway with the new one, then go back into the installation list and retick all the boxes (including Nav). Gateway cost could be £40 - £90 depending on where you buy.

You can't access controller 37 as it's not there at the moment, until it's checked in the gateway list.

 

[Viking]

Oh, and beware chinese sellers of fake gateways...

 

[SNAP-ON]

This is getting complicated now lol . I might just be better of buying a kenwood or similar and not having the nav . All i wanna do is plug and play like the old escort days lol

 

[Viking]

There's a software fix which also stops the battery drain feature, and that's a lot simpler...

 

[SNAP-ON]

If i could find a supplier that sells them with battery drain fix , steering control ready , latest maps with speed camera and traffic cams , movies on the move etc , latest fimware updates etc etc .... Just a plug and play

 

[Lankypug]

Viking.

im looking at fitting a Rns 315 into my 2005 seat altea. which gateway is best to get. is there anything else I need to know. I have a dab aerial and gps aerial.

many thanks

jon