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Turbo problems? Diagnosis required

lucifer666

Active Member
Dec 17, 2006
1,460
6
Cardiff
Have been having a few small issues since fitting a decat downpipe.

1. A fluttering noise, very light metalic sound to it. Only hear it when gently accelerating into the turbo range(3k) and lifting off


2. When flooring accelerator whilst crusing, a gear(or two) is dropped and revs increase and you feel the clutch clamping but then, revs dip 100rpm(1 notch) and then it keeps accelerating.


3. From a standstill,t/c off, s-mode, it short shifts in 3rd at at 4krpm, other gears are fine.(1&2 holds on the redline for quite a while)


4. Sporadic white/greyish smoke comes out, after coasting to a junction/lights etc and then re-applying the gas.


5. Increase in oil consumption, 1.75-2.0L in 4k


Theories

1. DSG Torque limit hit

As I am stage 2, but with decat 3"therefore big gain in torque, itg intake, uprated intercooler could that be enough to take me up to the limit when dropping gears quickly, and flooring it from a standstill with t/c off. Maybe it dosent short shift in 1 and 2 because of wheelspin decreasing force picked up by torque sensor


2. Barings worn on turbo

Explains poor pickup of rpm when gears dropped and oil usage, maybe audable metalic flutter noise? People have reported white smoke with damaged turbos on other cars. People did warn me that a decat could cause this because of lack of back preassure with a decat but the actuator should open to stop turbo spinning to silly speeds.


3. Actuator

I dont know much about this although I have been doing some reading over the last day or so. Basically, it opens when a certain max boost has been reached to stop the turbo spinning any further. Problem is that if it dosent close properly you will be leaking boost into exhaust. The turbo would have to spin more to create the requested boost by the map which may not even be reached anyway

Could this create a puff of smoke? I remember vrsy said he had problems with smoke when his map requested x amount of boost which would never be reached becase the actuator opens before that level so the turbo was at maximum rpm constantly and that created the smoke.


If I have mis understood any of the "mechanics" please feel free to point out. Any ideas, advice, or opinions are welcome


In other news I now have the LOBA HYBRID TURBO!
 
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lucifer666

Active Member
Dec 17, 2006
1,460
6
Cardiff
how long did it take to blow? This has been happening for around 5-6k now but i dont drive her hard for extended periods. Problem I have is i dare not fit the loba, the rings suddenly go and i mess my new turbo up too. I have had suspicions the rings were probematic for a while, white smoke an indicator of this but unless It fails compression which it dosent, seat refuse to do anything. I get the odd misfire only when wet, maybe indicating cracked cylinder sleeves.
 
Jul 11, 2009
643
0
Dorking
Section of piston between 1st and 2nd ring cracked through but car sounded OK and drove - just white smoke at junctions or full throttle. You need to pay for new pistons yourself, don't rely on SEAT to fix it for you. That's just the way it is.
 

vRSy

Fabia vRS
Jan 8, 2009
1,470
1
London
Section of piston between 1st and 2nd ring cracked through but car sounded OK and drove - just white smoke at junctions or full throttle. You need to pay for new pistons yourself, don't rely on SEAT to fix it for you. That's just the way it is.

I guess its a risk we take.

Uprating to aftermarket is definitely the way to go, i think its probably similar in price as well.


Were your uprated pistons based on the newest revisions that came out a few months back, or a previous revision?

LOBA toldf me they had uprated pistons so when i enquired and was asked to supply them with a piston to design from.... Ill just wait i think.
 
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