Torsion Bar Rear Suspension - FR Sport

GeoffGeoff

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Hey chaps,

Had a quick search and couldn’t find a definitive answer (sorry if I missed in the posts).

What I have read is generally anything 150bhp and under (mine) is torsion bar rear end...but I’ve also seen comments the FR (DCC) is independent...might have been referring to the Cupra’s and 2.0’s?

Can anyone clarify if a 1.5 FR Sport with DCC has independent rear suspension or not.

Only reason I ask is the rear feels a bit unsettled at times and thinking this is the case...either that or it’s due to the mismatched tyres on the rear (which is annoying me but not quite to the point of changing them just yet) but if I defo have independent rear suspension with the DCC then will be more inclined to swap tyres sooner as it’s a bit jittery on my local (fairly rubbish) roads.

Thanks!
 

BigJase88

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have a look under rear of car, beam then its not independent, no beam then it is independent.

The beam is fine on the fr, I have never found its limit, probably cause don't have enough power to get there
 
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Independent rear suspension, whilst providing a better ride, can feel a bit "floaty" at times. I had it on my 1.8tsi FR and was great for most driving scenarios, but long gradual bends on a gently undulating road made for some interesting driving.

A perfect example is the A134 dual carriageway strech heading north from junction 43 on the A14 near the sugar factory. Its a long bend that gets increasingly tight with lots of dips in the road which are at harmonic oscilation frequency with the suspension recovery speed.
 
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Hey chaps,

Had a quick search and couldn’t find a definitive answer (sorry if I missed in the posts).

What I have read is generally anything 150bhp and under (mine) is torsion bar rear end...but I’ve also seen comments the FR (DCC) is independent...might have been referring to the Cupra’s and 2.0’s?

Can anyone clarify if a 1.5 FR Sport with DCC has independent rear suspension or not.

Only reason I ask is the rear feels a bit unsettled at times and thinking this is the case...either that or it’s due to the mismatched tyres on the rear (which is annoying me but not quite to the point of changing them just yet) but if I defo have independent rear suspension with the DCC then will be more inclined to swap tyres sooner as it’s a bit jittery on my local (fairly rubbish) roads.

Thanks!
If your rear brake calipers are inline horizontally with the centre of the wheel then you have independent rear suspension,
if they are at an angle of about 45' to the wheel centre then it's torsion beam.
 
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GeoffGeoff

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have a look under rear of car, beam then its not independent, no beam then it is independent.

The beam is fine on the fr, I have never found its limit, probably cause don't have enough power to get there
Thanks Jase...I was just being lazy but guess that’s the best way to find out, cheers, I’ll get me coat dirty tomorrow and find out :thumbup:
 

GeoffGeoff

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Independent rear suspension, whilst providing a better ride, can feel a bit "floaty" at times. I had it on my 1.8tsi FR and was great for most driving scenarios, but long gradual bends on a gently undulating road made for some interesting driving.

A perfect example is the A134 dual carriageway strech heading north from junction 43 on the A14 near the sugar factory. Its a long bend that gets increasingly tight with lots of dips in the road which are at harmonic oscilation frequency with the suspension recovery speed.
You got way too technical for me at this time of night haha.

But in all seriousness that makes sense...can’t remember last time I had a torsion rear end so it might very well be the tyres based on the above.

Cheers.
 
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BigJase88

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Thanks Jase...I was just being lazy but guess that’s the best way to find out, cheers, I’ll get me coat dirty tomorrow and find out :thumbup:
Or follow information above about brake calipers. My mate has a mk6 golf and his calipers differ to mine so suggests he has independent rear suspension
 
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GeoffGeoff

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If your rear brake calipers are inline horizontally with the centre of the wheel then you have independent rear suspension,
if they are at an angle of about 45' to the wheel centre then it's torsion beam.
Ahh cool tip to avoid getting dirty jacket/jeans!

Is that Leon specific or general observation?
 
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GeoffGeoff

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Torsion it is then.

Couldn’t get a decent pic underneath this time of night but what’s the weird creamy colour stuff on bottom of boot floor? That normal?
 

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