Anyone know what age/spec FR or Cupra I can get PX for my 1.4 Formula Sport '57 plate with 18,000 on the clock? Would consider MK3 if I have to find loads more money!
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Swap '57 1.4FS for FR/CUPRA
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When i chopped in my 1.4 sport 100, 08 plate with 12k on the clock the gave me £6400 trade, that was 4 weeks ago, i doubt the FS will be that different, maybe about £6000?? I then bought an jan 07 56 plate FR TDi (facelift model) it had 24k on the clock, that set me back just over £1000 more after a bit of haggling, so depends what you would define as loadsa money 
I have seen a 1.8T 56 plate facelift FR in silver for £7100 at my local dealer, also it only has 17k on it. so depends what your after and willing to pay.
I have seen a 1.8T 56 plate facelift FR in silver for £7100 at my local dealer, also it only has 17k on it. so depends what your after and willing to pay.
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Thanks for the reply Phil, that's about what I was hoping for to be honest. I was hoping to get another petrol but how much does the FR TDI differ to the petrol version? What have you noticed be the biggest improvement?
Biggest improvement is the torque without doubt. Overtaking is effortless. I think you will agree, no matter how much you accelerate in the sport it still felt lacking.
The other benefits i found with the TDi over the petrol is general running costs. Everything from fuel to tax.
Eg./ sport was giving me about 340miles to a tank with some heavy driving, the TDi gives me about 490 with the same style. The 1.8T i would imagine to give around 260-290 due to the turbo.
Insurance: (Bare in mind these quotes are based on a 22 yr old, 2 years driving, 1 years no claims thanks to a flying metro smashing my lil 1.2 up
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& living in Kettering)TDI - £83 p/m (group 8)
1.8T - £119 p/m (group 13)
Tax
TDi - £129 p/a
1.8T - £180ish p/a (i think)
1.8T - Advantages - Electric performance, slightly better handling
1.8T - Disadvantages - Much high running costs, has to be revved harder for peformance, no 6th gear for cruising (its a disadvantage to me as i do 80miles a day)
TDi - Ads - Cheap to run, good cruiser, excellent overtaking power - gives a nice seat pinning shove in the back), the power is more accessable
TDi - Dis ads - Handling slightly worse (and i mean slightly), but will be much improved with a strut brace. Doesn't feel as fast from a standstill.
I think in summary 1.8T is better for shorter distances and track days (the TDi really is damn good at these all the same), but the TDi wins everywhere else just for day to day life.
I hope this helps mate, which ever way you look at it bud, you wont be disappointed, they are awesome cars, i'm really chuffed i upgraded mine.
Biggest improvement is the torque without doubt. Overtaking is effortless. I think you will agree, no matter how much you accelerate in the sport it still felt lacking.
The other benefits i found with the TDi over the petrol is general running costs. Everything from fuel to tax.
Eg./ sport was giving me about 340miles to a tank with some heavy driving, the TDi gives me about 490 with the same style. The 1.8T i would imagine to give around 260-290 due to the turbo.
Insurance: (Bare in mind these quotes are based on a 22 yr old, 2 years driving, 1 years no claims thanks to a flying metro smashing my lil 1.2 up
TDI - £83 p/m (group 8)
1.8T - £119 p/m (group 13)
Tax
TDi - £129 p/a
1.8T - £180ish p/a (i think)
1.8T - Advantages - Electric performance, slightly better handling
1.8T - Disadvantages - Much high running costs, has to be revved harder for peformance, no 6th gear for cruising (its a disadvantage to me as i do 80miles a day)
TDi - Ads - Cheap to run, good cruiser, excellent overtaking power - gives a nice seat pinning shove in the back), the power is more accessable
TDi - Dis ads - Handling slightly worse (and i mean slightly), but will be much improved with a strut brace. Doesn't feel as fast from a standstill.
I think in summary 1.8T is better for shorter distances and track days (the TDi really is damn good at these all the same), but the TDi wins everywhere else just for day to day life.
I hope this helps mate, which ever way you look at it bud, you wont be disappointed, they are awesome cars, i'm really chuffed i upgraded mine.
Think that answers everything! Amazingly you read my mind as I have just started a new job and I have been commuting by car 110 miles a day... in London too!! Sounds like the Tdi will be the better option for cruising on motorways and accelerating whilst lane changing while also having a bit more poke. Looks like I'm gonna start shoppin for TDi's!
No probs at all buddy, glad i can help, you wont be disappointed with the TDi its a fine car
this is exactly what im after doing. iv got a 1.4FS with 12,000 miles on the clock and im also after a cupra, and from the reading in this thread looks like TDI's is the way to go. iv got tinted windows, cat-back exhaust system, rear spoiler and rear tinted lights. do you think i would get a better trade if i put it back to standard?
I think it will be dealer dependant. I believe the main things they tend to look for is full seat service history and general condition (or cost of repairs). Might be worth checking with your dealer and see what they say. Things like the exhaust i would think would be better to put back to standard but they would take things like tinted windows as a bonus
Lets put it this way grants SEAT in essex are selling leons with full revo and milltek upgrades, yet Motorvogue tried to deducted £500 because i didnt have genuine SEAT alloys on my 1.2 and a sony stereo (that when i bought the Sport).
Things like the 1.4's are really desirable cars, i had motorvogue northampton and barlows of wolverhampton competing to get the car and the sale on the FR in the end. its very much a buyers market right now.
Just as a side note, barlows managed to sell my sport 100 1 week after they took it for trade.
Lets put it this way grants SEAT in essex are selling leons with full revo and milltek upgrades, yet Motorvogue tried to deducted £500 because i didnt have genuine SEAT alloys on my 1.2 and a sony stereo (that when i bought the Sport).
Things like the 1.4's are really desirable cars, i had motorvogue northampton and barlows of wolverhampton competing to get the car and the sale on the FR in the end. its very much a buyers market right now.
Just as a side note, barlows managed to sell my sport 100 1 week after they took it for trade.
Trappy
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Joe,
Diesels have come a long way recently and certainly need to be considered, even for performance cars. A few people on the forum (FCCUK) have now moved to diesels and had them remapped. One guy had a 200bhp, 300lbs/ft Leon and it ran a 14.6 quarter mile. In a straight line rolling race it was the same as a standard coop! One guy even has a 370bhp BMW 335d, it’s infamous in this country, goes like stink.
However, one thing nearly everyone agrees on; they really aren’t that much fun. Apparently the more powerful they get, the more ‘spikey’ they get. All of the torque is between 1,800rpm and 3,200rpm. Above that they run out of puff. They sound shite and they smoke a lot.
It’s really a personal choice. You get monstrous shove from low revs, but no ‘rev chasing’. Driven at 5 tenths, they’re very quick; even Kimbo’s Mazda3 pulls on the coop from equal revs in the same gear… for a while. It’d probably do it even more so now I have a bigger, slower spooling turbo!
You’d need to have a go in one for a while, to decide whether it’s for you really…. I nearly went for a BMW 330d or 535D touring but I enjoy the coop’s noise too much.
You want my advice? Go for an FR, get it remapped and enjoy 210bhp. Here's something else to consider...
Oh, there's a 15 post restriction on sending links to other sites, so you need to paste it into the address bar after the usual double-u, double-u, double-u dot. It's the Fiat Coupé forum people, no fccuking on there!
fccuk.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=854916#Post854916
Nigel and his 370bhp coupe doing 38mpg. It's all about how you drive it!
Diesels have come a long way recently and certainly need to be considered, even for performance cars. A few people on the forum (FCCUK) have now moved to diesels and had them remapped. One guy had a 200bhp, 300lbs/ft Leon and it ran a 14.6 quarter mile. In a straight line rolling race it was the same as a standard coop! One guy even has a 370bhp BMW 335d, it’s infamous in this country, goes like stink.
However, one thing nearly everyone agrees on; they really aren’t that much fun. Apparently the more powerful they get, the more ‘spikey’ they get. All of the torque is between 1,800rpm and 3,200rpm. Above that they run out of puff. They sound shite and they smoke a lot.
It’s really a personal choice. You get monstrous shove from low revs, but no ‘rev chasing’. Driven at 5 tenths, they’re very quick; even Kimbo’s Mazda3 pulls on the coop from equal revs in the same gear… for a while. It’d probably do it even more so now I have a bigger, slower spooling turbo!
You’d need to have a go in one for a while, to decide whether it’s for you really…. I nearly went for a BMW 330d or 535D touring but I enjoy the coop’s noise too much.
You want my advice? Go for an FR, get it remapped and enjoy 210bhp. Here's something else to consider...
Oh, there's a 15 post restriction on sending links to other sites, so you need to paste it into the address bar after the usual double-u, double-u, double-u dot. It's the Fiat Coupé forum people, no fccuking on there!
fccuk.org/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=854916#Post854916
Nigel and his 370bhp coupe doing 38mpg. It's all about how you drive it!
Trappy raises a good point.
I've been driving VAG turbo diesels for around 3.5 years now and they are amazing - very pokey, responsive, great fuel economy etc
BUT
They're not much fun to drive - sure the kick in the back from the torque at low revs is fun and exiting from roundabouts etc (ie. rolling start) they can pull away from many very capable cars - the problem is the narrow usable power band robs you of that excitement of running a petrol up to the red line.
If you take a TDI for a blast along a nice twisty A/B road you seem to spend all your time changing gear keeping the engine in the sweet spot - it's just not the same
I think you really need to get yourself a test drive - a decent one if you can, not just a blast down the road and back - and see if the car 'does it' for you. You don't mention doing high miles (I do 25k+ a year), so I'm guessing a petrol car's not going to be financially too big a stretch for you, so it comes down to what you like the feel of.
I've been driving VAG turbo diesels for around 3.5 years now and they are amazing - very pokey, responsive, great fuel economy etc
BUT
They're not much fun to drive - sure the kick in the back from the torque at low revs is fun and exiting from roundabouts etc (ie. rolling start) they can pull away from many very capable cars - the problem is the narrow usable power band robs you of that excitement of running a petrol up to the red line.
If you take a TDI for a blast along a nice twisty A/B road you seem to spend all your time changing gear keeping the engine in the sweet spot - it's just not the same
I think you really need to get yourself a test drive - a decent one if you can, not just a blast down the road and back - and see if the car 'does it' for you. You don't mention doing high miles (I do 25k+ a year), so I'm guessing a petrol car's not going to be financially too big a stretch for you, so it comes down to what you like the feel of.
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