Repeat J500 Error Power Steering Fault

[Liam_White]

HI All,

My first post on here, but i have a problem with my 02 plate Ibiza. It seems after i've reversed at low revs the power steering doesn't come back on until sometimes the next day or a couple days after. m0rk kindly tested it for me and it brought up the following errors,

I've checked the pump contacts (sprayed contact cleaner) - It obviously looks like the power steering control module is faulty (could be a relay) but it's integral into the steering rack. Before i crack on and order and replace a steering rack I wanted soem advice on this fault 01598 - Drive Battery Voltage
07-00 - Signal too Low

Is it worth replacing the battery incase it's this that's playing up and causing the j500. Also looked under the battery flap at the 50Amp fuse for the power steering to find nothing actually attached to it.

Appreciate any advice, thanks in advance;


VCDS Version: Beta 14.2.1 (x64)
Data version: 20140212

Saturday,22,March,2014,19:08:10:08176

Chassis Type: 6L (6L - Seat Ibiza/Cordoba (2002 > 2009))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 46 55 56

VIN: VSSZZZ6LZ3R040623 Mileage: 88410km/54935miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No: 03E 906 033 D
Component: 1,2l/4V SIMOS3 00HS4342
Coding: 00061
Shop #: WSC 06402
VCID: 2142F4C8ABD61A3CA8-5120
VSSZZZ6LZ3R040623 SEZ7Z0B1671633

2 Faults Found:
17925 - Power Supply Relay for ECU (J271 or J363)
P1517 - 35-10 - Electrical Malfunction - Intermittent
16514 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1
P0130 - 35-10 - Malfunction in Circuit - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 6Q0-820-045.lbl
Part No: 6L0 820 045
Component: Klimaanlage X0840
VCID: E5CA20D87F7EB61C94-5120

3 Faults Found:
01596 - Motor for Outside/Recirculated Air Flap (V154)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01596 - Motor for Outside/Recirculated Air Flap (V154)
29-00 - Short to Ground
01596 - Motor for Outside/Recirculated Air Flap (V154)
28-10 - Short to Plus - Intermittent

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 6Qx-937-049-C.lbl
Part No: 6Q1 937 049 C
Component: 00 BN-SG. 1S33
Coding: 16396
Shop #: WSC 06402
VCID: 3B7E26A0297A50EC92-5120

2 Faults Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
49-00 - No Communications
01598 - Drive Battery Voltage
07-00 - Signal too Low

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 909 605 R
Component: 06 AIRBAG VW5 0007
Coding: 22838
Shop #: WSC 06441
VCID: 4688475462B81D04FD-5120

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 6L0-920-xx0-17.lbl
Part No: 6L0 920 901
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V09
Coding: 00437
Shop #: WSC 01721
VCID: E7D62AD08572A40CA6-5120
VSSZZZ6LZ3R040623 SEZ7Z0B1671633

1 Fault Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
49-00 - No Communications

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: 63 GATEWAY CAN 1S33
Coding: 00012
Shop #: WSC 06402
VCID: F0E4418CB0BC63B4F7-513C

1 Fault Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
49-00 - No Communications

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 6Q0-959-433.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 959 433 E
Component: 5b Komfortgerát 0001
Coding: 00067
Shop #: WSC 06402
VCID: 3D7A28B8376E5EDCAC-4AE6

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 6Q1959801A
Component: 5b Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0001

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 6Q1959802A
Component: 5b Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0001

3 Faults Found:
00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00929 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Passenger Side (F221)
27-00 - Implausible Signal
00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222)
27-00 - Implausible Signal

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[Badger]

Have you tried scanning Module 44 (Steering Assist)?

 

[Liam_White]

Hi badger, thanks for the reply mate. Not sure if he scanned that, you think it's worth asking him for another favor & scanning that module for me?

 

[Badger]

It would make sense to scan that. Any errors would be contained there.

 

[Liam_White]

I'll e-mail him in the morning, I've got a feeling he may have just deleted the ones which had no fault which made it easier for me to look at. I'll update ya when i get a reply, thanks again

 

[Badger]

It would also see if the module is faulty, if it cannot connect then that may explain the no communications error and would suggest a fault with the control module.

 

[m0rk]

The answer was there all along

Chassis Type: 6L (6L - Seat Ibiza/Cordoba (2002 > 2009))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 46 55 56

 

[Badger]

Haha, well spotted!

Oops...

Looks like the module maybe faulty is you've tried cleaning the connections up.

 

[Liam_White]

Checked the connections, seemed ok so waiting for my dad to get home to triple check. IN the mean time i have replaced the battery anyhow. Turned back on.. lights stayed lit. Turned ignition off and on again and the PAS warning light went out. The steering felt 'light'(lighter than usual) for a couple turns and a couple hundred yards then it popped back up again and i lost power steering again. I'm inclined to change the rack now but the more I scour the internet the more it looks like a PAS Pump problem as it's intermittent... really stumped. I would have thought if the module in the rack was gone then the light would always stay illuminated and i'd always have no power steering.

 

[DavieTDI]

Could it be as simple as the load sensor cable has broke and is not charging the battery under 2000 revs. Had this on my PD130 and once fixed the fault never came back

 

[Liam_White]

Thanks for the reply Davie, i wish it was mate. Checked this first after researching the problem and it's all intact. I can't help but think that because of the intermittent nature of the fault it's the Power Steering Pump itself at fault. Ordered one and if it isnt i get a 20% restocking fee, worth checking it as its a lot easier to do than a rack. I'll keep the post updated incase anyone else has the problem.

 

[seatismyworld]

Could it be as simple as the load sensor cable has broke and is not charging the battery under 2000 revs. Had this on my PD130 and once fixed the fault never came back

where is this cabe located load sensor cable on the car need to cheak it before i have to go to seat

 

[DavieTDI]

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=209472



The biggest give away for this fault is if the battery light stays on. but like me if your cluster is F'#c'#ed then it wont come on