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PVC removal and Catch can install (BAM Engine

Greavesy

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Jun 30, 2013
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I know that this has been covered in separate threads before but I've just done this on my LCR, BAM engine so I thought I'd write it up.

(Mods, if this is in the wrong place please feel free to move it)

Stuff you'll need is:

For VAC removal.

8mm silicone bung (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270967905...eName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
one way valve (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400579175...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649)

For catch can.

catch can (I actually made my own from a aluminum drinks bottle)
19mm ID pipe (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330673712...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649) This is cheap and cheerful stuff.
19mm OD Aluminum bung (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290654289...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649)
18mm Breather filter (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330803496...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649)


If you're making your own can you'll also need

3 19mm straight plastic joiners
some metal to make a bracket

and a selection of jubilee clips
2 M6 bolts and nuts
1 M8 bolt, washers and nuts
some oil resistant sealer (I used some left over from when I dropped the sump)
Chemical metal

Important notes:

If you do this and something breaks / damages your engine it isn't my fault.
I did this and it is working fine with no issues.

Take care when routing the pipework, there are plenty of sensors and other pipes in the way.

The catch can I made vents to atmosphere.
If you want to re-circ. it, don't bung the TIP up, add another pipe from the catch can to the TIP.

Secure all pipework / bungs with suitable Jubilee clips.


Right then, to remove the PVC system you need to take out the following pipe assembly.


(Borrowed from RDS, if you want me to change this I will)

pipes on the left are from the left hand side of the inlet manifold.
middle pipe sticking up is from under the middle of the manifold.
the elbow on the lower right was left in position after removing the clip from the T-piece.
the pipe on the top right joins up with the breather from the head of the engine.

This is a bit fiddly to remove, you'll need to take the dipstick pipe out, along with the plastic trim piece.
Here's a link to Ebay for a replacement dipstick pipe for when you snap it like I did: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171208721898?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

Once you've removed the PVC assembly the pipe on the that runs over the hotside pipework will not be connected to anything, put in the new one way valve and add in a piece of pipe that will connect it back upto the inlet manifold.
*Will double check the direction of the valve asap. You'll know if its wrong because you wont be able to press your brake pedal down.

The pipe coming off the underside of the intake manifold should be covered with the 8mm silicone bung.

For now leave the elbow open, clean out as much crap as possible (DON'T FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET ANYTHING STUCK IN OR DOWN IT!!)

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Now remove the breather pipe going into the head, again remove any crap.
(Front, right hand side of the head, when looking at the engine)

On the Turbo Intake Pipe remove the breather pipe, it should be obvious which one it was as it will be connected to the pipe you've just removed.
Take the 19mm Aluminum bung and block up the hole. This will allow you to vent to atmosphere.

Once you've decided where to put your catch can bolt it into position. As in my LCR I have a 3.2 TT brace it has two small brackets welded onto it, I mounted it off there.

Cut two lengths of pipe, length will depend on location of catch can.

Now connect one end of a pipe upto the elbow above the oil filter, lay the pipe upto the catch can and connect it up.

Take the other pipe and connect it upto the port off the head and the other end upto the catch can.

Secure all clips up and fire up the engine to make sure everything is ok.

Here are a load of pictures of my setup.










Any questions fire away.
Also if anyone notices any mistakes I've made let me know lol.
 

wildrides

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Dec 27, 2013
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What are the benefits of this mod ......... never really understood why people do it since I have not had any probs with my stock PCV (yet! )
 
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Greavesy

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Jun 30, 2013
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Well all the pipes were gunked up and one was cracked so this simplified system causes less restriction to the intake system.
Also with the system not throwing all the oil vapor back into the intake system it's got to help the running of the car.

Dunno if it's in my head or not but it seems to idle and rev smoother.
 
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Greavesy

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One of the pipes was split and they were full of oil/condensation mixture. Was rank to be honest.

I'll get some photos of the pipes tomorrow.
 

747_727

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Apr 2, 2012
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Have you removed the puck valve from the tip line? Also in your first picture is the pipe going round the pipe from intercooler to turbo a new pipe youve added to complete the pvc system back up to the break servo?
 

747_727

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Apr 2, 2012
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good write up :D first thing it is not a good idea to vent the can under the bonnet as the oily vapour can be sucked into the cabin and it is potentially fatal

see here
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=393889

also see here
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=393147&page=2

Can you just put the vent hose right down the bottom of the engine? Would it still need a filter on the end of it or is that just if you have it in the engine bay?
 

Hobbiniho

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yeh i think that should be fine its just to stop it potentially being sucked in through the pollen filter into the cabin and as T108 in the first link found out having oil vapour in your car is not good
i have mine venting into the arch , but thats on a mk3 golf, i dont have a filter on mine but it wouldnt hurt to have one
 

Greavesy

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Jun 30, 2013
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Right, after a drive this morning and being stuck in traffic you can slightly smell oil vapor, as said above this isn't too great of the health of yourself and any passengers. So I'm going to remove the filter and add a pipe venting down behind the passenger side wheel arch.

747 727, yes I removed the puck from the system too. The pipe is just the original pipe cut with the one way valve added. I added the valve as per the guide I followed but Dan has said it isn't required as there is another valve further up the system.
 

747_727

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So after you have removed the PVC pipes shown in first picture so you have to do anything to the pipe going to brake servo? Does anything need blocking or joining together?
 

nathan_20vt

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Bit off topic but thinking of fitting a catch can to my auq cupra. I see most cans are 15mm inlet/outlet are these ok to use with the 19mm silicone pipe? Where did you get your can from?
 

Greavesy

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Jun 30, 2013
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made it myself.

Aluminium drinks bottle, 1 19mm 90degree elbow and 2 19mm straight joiners and some chemical metal.
 

747_727

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Apr 2, 2012
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That is gunked up. Maybe mine is the same causing my misfire when cold.
I'm going to do the same to my car once I've ordered the parts.
 
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