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Possible to fit Climate control to AC car?

roccotune

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Jun 2, 2008
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Hi all,

Does anyone know if it is possible to fit Climate control to a car that came with normal AC?

is the only difference the climate control unit etc etc?

thanks guys :)
 
I remember reading this question after i got my 1.4 sport which had the three rotary dials and wanting to swap them over, now having the climate control i think i would rather the dials! With the climate i cant find the sweet spot, its either too hot or too cold and end up taking my eyes off the road to change it opposed to dials which i could change with out looking.
 

zippyprorider

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yeah man dont bother climate control isnt great when driving quick i often knock it on with my hand while changing gear!

Andy
 

kriso

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Jan 29, 2007
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I remember reading this question after i got my 1.4 sport which had the three rotary dials and wanting to swap them over, now having the climate control i think i would rather the dials! With the climate i cant find the sweet spot, its either too hot or too cold and end up taking my eyes off the road to change it opposed to dials which i could change with out looking.

I know what you mean...it's hard to get it just right..and if you want 22c and it goes to 22.5c, you end up fiddling with it while driving....(well I do anyway). And I always want the fan at the lowest speed but even though I have Auto set to off..the speed changes when I start the car up the next time.. :cry:
 

kidinspace

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and as soon as you press auto, the aircon comes on. It's annoying

I use Auto on the Climate Control all the time set it to 24 (Cos it's cold just now) and leave it alone, I run it on "Econ" mode because it switches off the compressor and saves fuel.

I only use the "Non-Econ" mode when de-misting the windows cos it takes seconds rather than minutes.

I actually find it's too hot If I have the same temp selected and with vents to windscreen and floor.

.G.
 

kidinspace

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Dec 3, 2008
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I use Auto on the Climate Control all the time set it to 24 (Cos it's cold just now) and leave it alone, I run it on "Econ" mode because it switches off the compressor and saves fuel.

I only use the "Non-Econ" mode when de-misting the windows cos it takes seconds rather than minutes.

I actually find it's too hot If I have the same temp selected and with vents to windscreen and floor.

.G.

I've actually just noticed that no-body has mentioned the fact that the Climate Control electronically controls the air-vents with servo motors, either Automatically or when you select the particular air flow direction button.

So I guess you would have to change both the control head unit, and the box that controls the air vents themselves.

So it may turn out to be a bigger job than it seems, wiring....fuses.....

.G.
 

RUM4MO

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Jun 4, 2008
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I use Auto on the Climate Control all the time set it to 24 (Cos it's cold just now) and leave it alone, I run it on "Econ" mode because it switches off the compressor and saves fuel.

I only use the "Non-Econ" mode when de-misting the windows cos it takes seconds rather than minutes.

I actually find it's too hot If I have the same temp selected and with vents to windscreen and floor.

.G.

I think that you will find that the compressor is kept running on low duty - perhaps on "bypass", all the time, so significant fuel and wear and tear savings will not be made by running in ECON mode - but I must say I tend to leave my wife's car's A/C on ECON mode for some strange reason - except for when, as said already, "someone" (me) bumps into it when changing gear (it never happens to my wife though - I have been told!).
 

kriso

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I think it's coupled magnetically and runs on a clutch, at least some of the VAG ones do. There is a noticeable difference in engine load and therefiore performance and economy if I don't use ECON all the time.
 

warren_cox

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I've actually just noticed that no-body has mentioned the fact that the Climate Control electronically controls the air-vents with servo motors, either Automatically or when you select the particular air flow direction button.

So I guess you would have to change both the control head unit, and the box that controls the air vents themselves.

So it may turn out to be a bigger job than it seems, wiring....fuses.....

.G.

Yep, during the warm up cycle in our car you can hear motors whirring behind the dash as the heat is distributed through the various vents depending on what the temperature modules say is required. Would be a horrific job to retro fir as you'd have to install the sensors that determine where the heat is piped. Not for the faint hearted.
 

muddyboots

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I remember reading ages back, that you could actually buy a kit from Seat to convert from oircon to Climatronic. It was pretty pricey and I would imagine would be a hell of the job - there are loads more sensors, servo motors, etc etc to be fitted & wired in.


I tend to use mine in Econ mode most of the time, as I don't like the drying effect that the compressor causes (makes my eyes sore). Only time I use the compressor is if the rest of the car starts to mist up - or it's very hot outside. I don't use it in Auto either, as I find that it never quite feels right. So I just manually set the temp and select which vents & fan speed I want.
I think the big advantage is being able to choose any combination of vents, rather than being limited by what manual rotary controls allow.
 

RUM4MO

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I think it's coupled magnetically and runs on a clutch, at least some of the VAG ones do. There is a noticeable difference in engine load and therefiore performance and economy if I don't use ECON all the time.

"some of the VAG ones do" - yes, but as I said not this one! The bonus with this type, and hopefully it is the way forward, is that the compressor seals get kept "wet" with circulating system oil so do not start leaking through lack of use. Also no elctro-mechanical clutch assembly to fail!
 

kriso

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"some of the VAG ones do" - yes, but as I said not this one! The bonus with this type, and hopefully it is the way forward, is that the compressor seals get kept "wet" with circulating system oil so do not start leaking through lack of use. Also no elctro-mechanical clutch assembly to fail!

OK not yours, but mine does apparently
 

RUM4MO

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Jun 4, 2008
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OK not yours, but mine does apparently

If your meaning on an Ibiza 6L then I'd still say "not likely" - have a look under the bonnet and see if you can spot the wiring going to the electro-mechanical clutch mounted on the drive pulley - I don't think that you will find any - or any evidance of a clutch assembly built into the drive pulley.