Oil recommendations?

RUM4MO

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I've just used 5W-30 Mobil 1 ESP in my older daughter's 2019 Cupra stock 290, I can't say what it was filled with at the factory or what the "dealership group" used at years 1, 2 and 3 of a dealership group prepaid service package. I have used that in all my own VW Group cars for years - but I can't say if it is amazing or good enough.
 
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Cupra306Form

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I've been using Manol for a while, good oil. Mobil1 mentioned above is excellent, but expensive.

I get the Manol as a 4 x 5ltr pack from Ebay - works out great value. I was doing oil changes on my old Skoda vRS and daughters Seat FR.
 
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SuperV8

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It needs to be approved to VW 504.
(504 is a high specification to meet, so any 504 approved oil will be a good oil) but needs to be 'approved' not equivalent or recommended which are just BS marketing.

Unless people are doing oil analysis every oil change - they won't be able to confirm if their oil is working well with their engine. Not blown up is a rather low bar to determine if the oil was good!

Just use any well know oil brand - 5w30 with 504 approval.
 

RUM4MO

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Currently, a "plus" for choosing Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 is, it now is formulated to meet or exceed the SP standard, and that means that when used with DI petrol engines, there is less chance of LSPI if/when the engine is "sipping" or breathing in engine oil. Though typically that seems to be more of a problem with smaller engines.

I tend to buy my oil supply for a year in when the price is right, so it doesn't need to be expensive, also, when I bought the oil in for my older daughter's Leon Cupra, I bought it from Halfords for speed and ease, and it looks like they had started dumping or selling off cheaply, their remaining stocks of Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 and it was new stock so formulated to SP, so that was lucky! As it was only a month or so after I had serviced our two cars, I did not feel the need to grab another couple of cans for next year - but I should have.
 

missmouse

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this is a good point. oil companies advertise " the best protection oils" then a year later bring out the same slogan for another oil. So does this mean last years oil isnt any good?
 

RUM4MO

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Engine oils like anything else, do get reformulated to address new issues as they "turn up", this new API approval which is SP, I think, has been available for maybe a few years to address the problem known as LSPI which can occur when typically small modern Turbo charged direct injection petrol engine ingest engine oil in their in coming air, that will be happening for many of these engines and going unnoticed but is not really something that is desirable, any oils meeting this later SP approval will be more resistant to supporting LSPI which for me, can only be a good thing.

So, yes this latest reformulation of Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 should be better than the previous one which I think was SL, but that does not make the oils still at SL etc approval terrible, it is just an aspect of some newer engine oils that I had read was being addressed, I am a long term user of Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30, and my wife's 2015 VW Polo 1.2TSI 110PS, is a small turbo charged direct injection petrol engine, so finding that Mobil had addressed this issue, suited me. I don't know why many other engine oil brands are either being a bit shy about which API approval they are meeting/exceeding though, I'd think that VW Group will be burying this "improvement" inside some of their very latest approval ratings/spec and not making a noise about it. Maybe a lot like Apple's frequent S/W updates to "improve" your user experience, ie nothing wrong in the first place, we're just making it better.
 
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