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IanH123

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Feb 22, 2006
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Hi I am a newbie too just looking for a bit of advise, Looking at buying a Leon Cupra 180BHP
Seen a 52 with 36000 for £8k with face lift.
Is it a good price had a look around and seems resonable ??
 

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Craig
Feb 20, 2006
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I'l be honest and say i got mine from E-Bay.

Best thing i've ever done.

Theres always a risk with E-Bay, but i think its well worth it!
 

IanH123

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What did you get and for what money.

See I would be worried about it as recently saw and add in autotrader and they said it was good condition turned up and it was not at all, it hadnt been loved at all.
 

IanH123

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Feb 22, 2006
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That quite a nice car for quite a nice price. Well done!! what did you have before??
 

IanH123

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Feb 22, 2006
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Well hmm no. The one that I was looking at has sold already he only had it for 3 days. Was going to look at it this weekend, when I spoke to the guy just the other day he said he had just had another phone call about it just before me. I work a naff shift so had no time to go and see it so though I would leave it until the weekend. Damb annoyed. Never mind I’m sure another one will come along.
 

IanH123

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Feb 22, 2006
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Got one!!!
Went and looked at a platinum grey 03 with 25000, it is perfect no marks outside or in. Had to buy it £9990 bit more than I wanted to pay but what the hell been looking now for about a month and they all seem to fall in to two category’s £8,000 high mileage 52/03 plate over 60,000 and in tatty condition, £10,000 medium mileage 30,000 good condition.

Anyway just need to organise a few bits and hopefully can pick it up next weekend.

Cheers for all the advice.

Ian
 

jonjay

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IanH123 said:
Hi I am a newbie too just looking for a bit of advise, Looking at buying a Leon Cupra 180BHP
Seen a 52 with 36000 for £8k with face lift.
Is it a good price had a look around and seems resonable ??
You can get really low mileage ones for 9-10k. Shop around, look on the seat used site.
 

IanH123

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Feb 22, 2006
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The one I got for 10,000 is a reasonable price I think. It is in a great condition as well and well the all important colour as specified by the misses.

Takes the mickey went to look at a silver one last week £10000 53 silver 36000 miles good nic so the all important question "do you like it" "hmm well no, its silver and looks too like your current one" :rolleyes: (current one being a 04 1.6s boring as hell mistake don’t buy one there rubbish) what the hell does the colour matter damb women are such a weird bread lol.

Anyway the one im getting is lovely. :funk:
 
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Cuprabob

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I will have a high mileage red Cupra R (75K mainly motorway miles), really good condition, Full Seat Service History, full Recaro interior for sale in the next month for around £8,500.

PM me and I'll send you pictures taken at the weekend.

I'm in the Glasgow area
 

IanH123

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Cuprabob said:
I will have a high mileage red Cupra R (75K mainly motorway miles), really good condition, Full Seat Service History, full Recaro interior for sale in the next month for around £8,500.

PM me and I'll send you pictures taken at the weekend.

I'm in the Glasgow area


Good choice was looking at Black one in the south for £8,000 but figured with 70000 miles when I go to resell will have over 100000 and wont be worth anything. So decided to go with the less powerful Cupra but with low mileage, it is the best option for me.

I get bored with cars too easy so buy new ones every couple of years. Cost me a fortune. :-o
 
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DomJolly

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will you be doing any mods?

i usually shy away from one that's been played with. But then, I am going to want to play with it anyway - and if someone else has, and done a good job, and I'm as happy with it as if i'd made the decisions, then it's £#,###'s cheaper than getting a granny driven std and doing it yourself. look at the potential 'total' cost of this transaction... i.e. wheels, remap, brakes, stage 2?, front mount intercooler (FMIC), stronger and free flowing manifold, bigger turbo = ~£4,500!!! I'd say get a more aggressive Cupra R and spend an easy £399 on a revo or similar remap and you'd have ~260bhp and loads of torque with the stronger engine internals, 2 side mount intercoolers instead of 1, rigid charge pipe, uprated injectors, lovelly Brembo brakes, nice 18" wheels, fuller bodykit, better interior - seats and red piping etc., - and it will have 'R' on the tailgate!

I wish i had 20k more miles and was driving an R. The 'sensible' thing wears off quickly and i'm now looking at spending big bucks. If you may want it quicker, you've got so many things to ugrade that you didn't necesarily prepare for - if you want ideal set up. Even then, the cupra r wouldh've cost slightly less and be better.

The 180 Leon cupra is a great car, and for the money - nothing comes close. The interior is straight out of an A3 (mkI), the engine and gearbox is from the A3 1.8T and it is a really nice drive. My personal advice is the best return from spending anymore on this car is a stage 1 remap at around £400 and it is a huge improvement. Anything further will cost more and deliver less.... slippery slope. I've had stage 2, which with the required full turbo back xorst, sports cat and downpipe, plus a panel filter (only £70) has cost me £850 and the improvement was very subtle. I'm noticing better driveability and response having driven it for a bit longer, but first impressions were dissappointing. Now i'm looking at FMIC, ATP/APT(?) manifold costing £1,000 - plus fitting. Will probably gain 10bhp and in warmer weather suffer less loss of power - but very little actual gain. Then i'd be well prepared for a bigger turbo, which will require a further remap - at least £2,500 supply, fit, uprate injectors, remap. Do you see what i'm saying? And although most of us here enjoy uprating these cars, we all know it's dead money.

A higher mileage car that's got the performance you want (and will want) to begin with, will suffer less depreciation than a lower mileage car with the loss of the mods (and consequently lessened appeal to 'most' potential buyers).

However, i do agree that 100k is high and far from easy to sell on, what I am saying is don't look at a lower mileage LC as a cheaper option to an 'equivalent' mileage LCR if you think you'll spend some cash uprating the LC. Look at the total potential cost of the LC and spend it on an LCR!!! I was unsure as to the mechanical differences between them, but now know that the K03S turbo on the LC does start to run out of puff at around 4,700rpm - whereas the K04 turbo on the LCR pulls more for longer. 'Straining' a LC to 207(stage1)/230(stage2+FMIC) will cost around £399/~£2,200. An LCR will be 210 (earlier model) or 225 as std and simply need £399 to acheive ~260bhp.

I'd have a 25k LCR over my 10k LC anyday - just wished I hadn't spent so much on this stage 2! I am happy with my car, but I want more!

My opinion anyway - and although rather negative advice about LC's i am talking from my own experience with my car only - and an most certainly not looking to offend anyone!

I would actually say that the free flowing xorst incl. downpipe and sports cat, with better induction (panel filter + modified airbox) did make quite an improvement in stock mode (Revo setting turned off) over the std system and has very smooth performance. The Revo adds lots of torque in the midrange and is a very good mod also. The LC is a great car and I do enjoy driving it in stock mode at times, and would actually be quite happy with that, but the xorst system helps with it being slightly more refined. If you drive it and are happy - get it. If you think you're gonna play around with it, just spend the extra cash on an R.
 
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IanH123

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Feb 22, 2006
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Dom nice post, good to read but my problem is most of what you have just said went way over my head, mines going to be standard and that’s probably how it will stay, I don’t really have any clue on how any of it works and dont have the spare cash.

All I know is I love the Leon Cupra its lovely to drive goes well and looks good.

Maybe a year or two I will take your advice and go and buy a LCR. Well hopefully at that point the New Leon will be out there and the price of the Mk1 will be a lot less. Fingers crossed

Thanks for the advice anyway

Also arent you worried about buying a modded one as it may have been thrashed???

Ian
With (on Saturday) a Standard unmodified 180bhp Leon Cupra, 17" standard alloys, and standard stereo (at the moment)

LOL
 
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DomJolly

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regarding buying amodded one being thrashed: if you buy a low mileage totally std car and plan to mod it, you are surely going to give it a bit of welly anyway. Kinda have mixed feelings really, but i can't help but think if it's got what i would have put on it, and it's same price as std., i'm saving £#,###'s. Buying a std. cupra r, could be as risky, as it isn't a slow car, so why would anyone pay that extra cash and not thrash? I reckon the highest risk cars are the little 110-130bhp small hatches that boy racers drive to the redline constantly. They are thrashed more than anything as they're not really that quick and making noise, driving stupidly and getting attention is their priority. Less chance with a Leon Cupra.

If you are keeping it std., then top car and I would certainly say you have made a great choice. For only £399 - you'll have 207bhp and 230ftlbs torque, mainly the torque is the big gain, and you'll be very quick. I feel quite safe in suggesting that you do nothing else to it though, as you'll spend more than £399 and get less of a gain than the remap gave, therefore not worth it in my opinion.

Nice car. Smooth, comfortable, refined and any other car feels pants to drive after. The firm supportive seats, leather-wrapped steering wheel, lovelly gearbox,... and looks great to.

Certainly can't think of any other car to have at the same or similar price. The Focus ST170 was pants and has no tuning potential.

Enjoy your car. :)
 
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