MK4 Golf Callipers

[andyj]

Has anyone tried this mod ?!?

The Mk2/3 Golf guys are recommending this mod for anyone who's suffering from a seized caliper !!!

Apparently, because the Mk4 Golf Calipers are alloy, and they have the 'spring' mechanism internally, they are far less prone to seizing.

The only problem, is that the Mk4 caliper needs 'banjo' style fitments on the hoses.

C&R sell hoses specifically for this.

I've also found a thread on VW Vortex, where they've found that '99 Passat rear hoses fit the Mk4 calliper etc. So I've emailed my local VW Dealer to see if they can supply the hoses. (P/N for the hoses is: 8E0 611 775 J)

The Mk4 calipers fit the Mk2 mountings. You can also use Mk2/3/4 pads and discs apparently.

Seeing as my off-side rear calliper is seized, I'm going to try and source some Mk4 calipers from a local scrappy !!!

Thoughts/comments on the subject much appreciated !!!

Andy

 

[RobT]

Have thought about this myself - there are some Mk4-like alloy calipers that take the std hose but I have never been able to find out what car they are off - see here:

http://www.bildon.com/catalog/DetailsList.cfm?ID=1J0.698.423/424&Nav=4

I think its a good idea - but apparently if your car does not have abs caution is needed as they are more efficient than the std caliper

Rob

 

[andyj]

Cheers Rob

Have found out a price for the brake lines from VW - £15.56 ea. inc vat

Just need to find some callipers now!

Can't you just adjust the rear brake bias-valve to reduce the balance of the brakes, therefore combating the increased effectiveness of the new calipers? (or am I being thick!)


Andy

 

[RobT]

You could adjust the rear bias (a) if you have one (I have so this is an option open to me but may not be to others) and (b) if you have enough reduction still to play with in the valve - mine is actually set pretty far reduced as it is with std brakes

Rob

 

[andyj]

I 'think' there's one present on the Cordoba.... we shall see !!!

 

[andyj]

Hopefully, I've just acquired a set of rear calipers, discs and pads from an Octavia vRS

Will have to ditch/sell the discs with them being 5-stud (anyone need some Leon rear discs?!?)

and then buy a set of conversion hoses from Stealth for £30.

Will keep you all posted how I get on with it

Andy

 

[andyj]

thread from the past..... lol

found out that the vRS callipers are the 256mm vented ones, same as the LCR, and won't fit the Cordy.

swapped them for a set of 232mm Leon ones.... and have only just picked them up off m0rk last night!!! lol

totally forgot about them !!!

 

[Icecavern]

And soon to be fitted to a special Cordy

 

[andyj]

.... by a 'special' person...

 

[Icecavern]

 

[Icecavern]

Just to add to this thread in case anyone wants to do this in future...

The Leon Cupra carriers are not suitable for the Ibiza/Cordoba, but the calipers bolt onto the standard carriers on the car already. So don't worry about buying the carriers as you don't need them

Goodridge do a Mk2 golf - Mk4 caliper conversion hose kit and they bolt on spot on.

As for rear bias, well in my case I may not have to worry too much about that as the LCR brembos up front should balance it out

 

[Suze]

I've got Mk4 Callipers on my Corrado G60, big improvement

 

[WeeJase]

i just refurbed my mk2 ones with a Lucas seal kit.as far as i know still going strong.

 

[Icecavern]

You can't fit them upside down... Well you could but you wouldn't be able to fit your handbrake cable to them if you did.

 

[Icecavern]

Well the bleed nipple has to be on the top for it to work, and if you have them the other way around you can't connect the handbrake so I'm not sure how it can be done wrong.

 

[WeeJase]

you would have to have them on the wrong side too then.
as they would only fit to the inside,so upside down and on the wrong side,its actually harder to fit them wrong