mk3 cupra R 23mm fron ARB

[F2 Ed]

so i think im right in saying the mk2 GTI 8v has a 20mm ARB & the mk3 cupra R has a fatter 23mm bar.

What is needed to fit the 23mm bar? Just bigger D bushes, and/or drop link?

 

[Dolly_Gti]

if the front subframe and suspension is the same as a mk2 you just need the mk3 bushes and drop links?

 

[andyj]

yeah i think you're right Dolly, just the bushes and drop-links needed.

 

[jenk]

Does it not taper back in to 20mm?

 

[andyj]

Hmmmm, interesting comment Jenk, never really thought about it!

Not seen one in person to comment.....

 

[andyj]

Parts list from vagcat.com:

13 6K5411309
stabilizer / F >> 6K-X-430 579 / F 6K-X-430 580>>
20MM / AKL ALM

(13) 6K0411309
stabilizer / F 6K-X-430 580>>
23MM / AKL

(14) 1H0411314
rubber mounting / F 6K-X-430 580>>
inner / AKL; diesel eng. ALM

(15) 6K0411315
connecting link / F 6K-X-430 580>>
/ AKL; diesel eng. ALM

So it looks like the 23mm Cupra R one uses the same droplinks /bushes as the 20mm TDi one..... so Jenk you're right, the ends do taper back down to 20mm

 

[jenk]

The R thicker than a normal mk3 cupra one?

 

[jenk]

so Jenk you're right, the ends do taper back down to 20mm

Not so useless am I

I looked into going mk3 front arb and 25mm rear but I've decided on the 25 and 28mm H&R's. Just gotta pluck the courage up to loose the moths out my wallet

 

[Dolly_Gti]

i dont see a massive advantage of running a rear ARB on a car with a rear beam.

any track day boys notice much from having one on the back?

 

[jenk]

Made a huge difference on my mk4, rear end kicks out when needed now.

 

[M1KEH]

i dont see a massive advantage of running a rear ARB on a car with a rear beam.

any track day boys notice much from having one on the back?

It's only a thinwall beam though. Jack up a front corner or four car and see how much the rear beam flexes.

 

[R French]

Ran a Neuspeed rear ARB on my MK2 rally car for the last 3 seasons on the middle setting. On tarmac made the world of difference, removed it when I killed the beam and never bothered re-fitting.

The only difference I can tell now is that I get loads more wheel spin out of corners and the power is more difficult to put down early.

So - I guess the rear ARB was actually doing something as opposed to the standard built in weight gaining device which does very little!

 

[Dave_R]

i dont see a massive advantage of running a rear ARB on a car with a rear beam.

any track day boys notice much from having one on the back?

Hell of a differance! Made the car handle so well but in the wet it's very tail happy, once I fitted the 25mm front it balanced it out more.

If you ever played about with settings on GT or F1 games, make the rear stiffer and the front will grip more but will likely oversteer more easily. Stiffer the front end and you will get more rear end grip but you likely to get understeer then.

But if you going to mess about with arb's save a bit and get the rear 28mm Neuspeed one first! Wish I did it much sooner than I did!

 

[F2 Ed]

But if you going to mess about with arb's save a bit and get the rear 28mm Neuspeed one first! Wish I did it much sooner than I did!

Best place to buy?

 

[Dave_R]

Badger 5 or Awesome GTi