Misfire - any ideas - VAGCOM error codes

[mr. Hedgehog]

My GFs Leon 1.8t has just begun misfireing when accelerating, engine management light is flashing. Car is juddering under load and smells odd, like its very hot? Just run VAGCOM and the following has come back:

VAG-COM Version: Release 311.2-N

Control Module Part Number: 06A 906 032 HN
Component and/or Version: 1.8L R4/5VT 0002
Software Coding: 11510
Work Shop Code: WSC 77878
Additional Info: VSSZZZ1MZ2R089501 SEZ7Z0A1399755
3 Faults Found:
16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 - 35-00 - -
16688 - Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected
P0304 - 35-00 - -
16687 - Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected
P0303 - 35-00 - -





VAG-COM Version: Release 311.2-N


Chassis Type: 1M - Seat Leon
Scan: 01,02,03,08,15,17,19,22,35,46,56

Address 01 -------------------------------------------------------
Controller: 06A 906 032 HN
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT 0002
Coding: 11510
Shop #: WSC 77878
VSSZZZ1MZ2R089501 SEZ7Z0A1399755
No fault code found.

Address 03 -------------------------------------------------------
Controller: 1C0 907 379 K
Component: ASR FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0022017
Shop #: WSC 00001
No fault code found.

Address 08 -------------------------------------------------------
Controller: 1M0 820 043 D
Component: 1M-CLIMATRONIC X0605
Coding: 00041
Shop #: WSC 06441
No fault code found.

Skipping Address 15-Airbags

Address 17 -------------------------------------------------------
Controller: 1M0 920 902 C
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02
Coding: 05424
Shop #: WSC 00001
VSSZZZ1MZ2R089501 SEZ7Z0A1399755
No fault code found.

Address 19 -------------------------------------------------------
Controller: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 06441
No fault code found.

Address 46 -------------------------------------------------------
Controller: 1C0 959 799 F
Component: 3M Komfortgerát HLO 0003
Coding: 00259
Shop #: WSC 06441
2 Faults Found:
00955 - Key 1
09-10 - Adaptation Limit Surpassed - Intermittent
01135 - Interior Monitoring Sensors
36-00 - Open Circuit

Address 56 -------------------------------------------------------
Controller: 1M0 035 186 F
Component: Radio 0001
Coding: 00403
Shop #: WSC 06441
2 Faults Found:
00852 - Loudspeaker(s): Front
36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00853 - Loudspeaker(s): Rear
36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

End -------------------------------------------------------


Any ideas anyone?

 

[m0rk]

coilpacks on 3 & 4

buy 4

 

[DPJ]

Coilpack failed.

 

[mr. Hedgehog]

Thought so - wasn't there a thing on watchdog a while back about VAG admitting that their coilpacks were dodgy, and all were replacing them even out of warrenty? They were only replaced 30K ago under warrenty.

 

[mr. Hedgehog]

Why would both go immediately at once? Not usually the way is it?

 

[m0rk]

normally one goes, then the one next to it trips up if you drive it a little.

but if all four were replaced, and two have failled, you can bet the others will go soon.

When I said buy 4, it's a given they'll all need to be replaced - and you can do it at a time and place that's convenient - or on a cold wet hardshoulder

keep the two good ones in the boot for next time

 

[mr. Hedgehog]

anyone got a part no? what do you think my chances are of getting them done on good will on grounds that they are only 30K old and were replaed under warrenty - given the press coverage and the fact they are a known fault.

 

[m0rk]

they replaced faulty ones (from a known faulty batch)

but these will likely be considered wear & tear

worth a try, but it might mean driving to the dealer (not great on 2 cylinders)

 

[mr. Hedgehog]

Assuming we have no chance of a good will / warrenty claim GF now asking if its OK to drive to a workshop 20 miles away (which would be a challenge) - is this going to do any more harm? I don't think we trust any of the local workshops.

Was unaware that driving on with 1 coilpack down tripped up the next in line. Could this be the case if she drives on the remaining 2?

Now glad i have a diesel.

 

[mr. Hedgehog]

Was the coils, replaced them and the car is running fine again.

Glad we did it ourselves, as the dealership wanted to charge us an hours labour for what actually took all of 5 minutes.

Thanks all.

 

[mr. Hedgehog]

New issue : VAG-COM Version: Release 311.2-N

Control Module Part Number: 06A 906 032 HN
Component and/or Version: 1.8L R4/5VT 0002
Software Coding: 11510
Work Shop Code: WSC 77878
Additional Info: VSSZZZ1MZ2R089501 SEZ7Z0A1399755
4 Faults Found:
17763 - Cylinder 1 Ignition Circuit: Open Circuit
P1355 - 35-00 - -
17769 - Cylinder 3 Ignition Circuit: Open Circuit
P1361 - 35-00 - -
17772 - Cylinder 4 Ignition Circuit: Open Circuit
P1364 - 35-00 - -
17766 - Cylinder 2 Ignition Circuit: Open Circuit
P1358 - 35-00 - -

Car is seemingly running well, but these keep on coming back - any ideas anyone? Thanks.

 

[mr. Hedgehog]

bump - engine management light still coming back

 

[goble]

the light is back on yer,but is it running rough or anyother symptoms??
its either down to the main engine bay connection, a poor earth,ecu terminals or ignition drivers inside the ecu

 

[mr. Hedgehog]

Car is running perfect. The ignition coils were not branded with the VAG symbol, but I was assured by the motorfactor (reccomended by VW who didn't have any coils in) the part no. was the same and that the coils would be fine. they look exactly the same, fit exactly the same, but the above faults keep coming back. This has only happened since fitting the new coils??

I don't mind driving around in my VRS with the eng management light on (EGR removed) but the GF wont put up with it on the Leon...

 

[Leigh15]

FYI - coilpacks are covered by a 5 year warranty so unless you have an early Leon you can get them replaced FOC - don't believe the dealer if they tell you otherwise. Also, it's probably not a great idea to have your full VIN on a public forum - I'd edit your first post it I was you.

No idea on the fault codes you have now - but as goble suggested, I'd check all the electrical connections in the engine bay are clean and tight as a starting point

 

[mr. Hedgehog]

Tried the stealers and was shot down immediately - they were only replaced 30K ago by the dealers under warrenty. spoke to the customer services manager and was advised that they do not offer good will or warrenty on this part past 1 year.

will check the connections