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max bhp from a 180bhp?

mrcupra

Guest
hi, i want to get the most power out of my cupra without chan ging the turbo what can i do its only got a straight through exhaust completly de-cat not to worried about cost want it to beat my mates new type r any help would be great im looking for arround 250bhp
 

WeeJase

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Jun 2, 2001
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pub figures you should reach your goal,but in reality its a bit less,from what i have read.

oh and typeR's?driver dependant it's not power you need anyway,make you car handle better
 
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mrcupra

Guest
well im not 100% loyal as the engine is in a corrado im more interested in quarter mile, i will change the turbo eventually but im gunna wait till it blows im in no rush, are uprated fuel pressure regulators worth doing?
 

WeeJase

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Jun 2, 2001
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well im not 100% loyal as the engine is in a corrado im more interested in quarter mile, i will change the turbo eventually but im gunna wait till it blows im in no rush, are uprated fuel pressure regulators worth doing?

so it is a cupra engine and not the cupra R with the bigger turbo?.EDIT: you said cupra ,180bhp,sorry
fpr upgrade is ok if you have the map to suit,otherwise no need
my octavia vrs has the 4 bar fpr upgrade that revo used to do before the stage 2.
against a old shape type R i was left on the twisters,but reeled him in over a LONG straight and passed pretty easily (again octy vrs not leon or corrado).
1/4 mile i have no idea sorry,how much does the corrado weigh?
 
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Eternal Rage

Scooby & Cordy Powered
Mar 22, 2005
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Exhaust (inc Downpipe & Sports CAT), CAI Filter, FMIC, 4 Bar FPR, Injectors and a Remap should see you to the 250 BHP... just... will set you up nicely for when the Turbo does pop its cloggs to, almost everything will already be in place for 300-350+ BHP
 
Nov 2, 2004
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Exhaust (inc Downpipe & Sports CAT), CAI Filter, FMIC, 4 Bar FPR, Injectors and a Remap should see you to the 250 BHP... just... will set you up nicely for when the Turbo does pop its cloggs to, almost everything will already be in place for 300-350+ BHP

Eh? Why would you change the injectors on a standard turbo?

And the only thing you would probably keep if you went BT would be the FMIC, as you would use a different downpipe, MAF etc...


fmic, turbo back exhaust, TIP, filter, DV, remap and any other mods needed like 4var for revo stage 2.
 

P-torque.co.uk

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Mar 30, 2006
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Real figures possible are 220 - 235bhp with turbo back exhaust, and upgraded intercooler

250bhp is not possible without shortening the turbo life.

Changing the injectors would be pointless unless you go for a turbo upgrade.
 

ibizacupra

Jack-RIP my little Friend
Jul 25, 2001
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as said 220bhp is realistic "real" bhp on the k03s fitted to your 180 motor.
Add bigger DP, free flowing induction, FMIC and you could eak out a little more (maybe up to 15bhp)

Unless you take it to a happy dyno of course... :p
 

chriswilks

Astra CDTi track car
Jun 3, 2007
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dont always take figures too seriously i did and was well p*ssed off at first but having a few traffic light grand prixs with other stuff has made me more than happy!!!!
 

WeeJase

pert
Jun 2, 2001
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as said 220bhp is realistic "real" bhp on the k03s fitted to your 180 motor.
Add bigger DP, free flowing induction, FMIC and you could eak out a little more (maybe up to 15bhp)

Unless you take it to a happy dyno of course... :p

tis why i said pub figures,there are many octy owners claiming 250+ on std turbo.
my 221 bhp seems more accurate. but its the 257lbs ft of torque(s) that i like.
 

Eternal Rage

Scooby & Cordy Powered
Mar 22, 2005
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Manchester
Eh? Why would you change the injectors on a standard turbo?

And the only thing you would probably keep if you went BT would be the FMIC, as you would use a different downpipe, MAF etc...


fmic, turbo back exhaust, TIP, filter, DV, remap and any other mods needed like 4var for revo stage 2.


Only the FMIC???:shrug:
So you wouldnt keep the CAI, 4Bar FPR, Exhaust, sports CAT and injectors!?!?!?!
Somehow i think you would :redface:

Admittedly the Downpipe and Map would be duplicated, but thats it, all the others are there as overkill to start so the step up to BT conversion is as small as possible (just Turbo/Mani/Downpipe/Remap required)

I will be trying to do it as i go to spread the financial burden of doing a BT conversion, just cant muster that sort of £££ in one go, lol
 

mrcupra

Guest
Thanks for the help guys. Ive currently got a 2.5" downpipe and straight through system (no cats at all) with a landrover td5 intercooler but i havnt got a clue whether the intercooler will stand even 250bhp?? Are the k&n apollo air filters any good or do you reckomend any others and also what fuel pressure regulator is the best to go for? The car it self weights about a ton so isnt to bad and goes well even with the standard cupra engine
 

Eternal Rage

Scooby & Cordy Powered
Mar 22, 2005
350
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Manchester
Thanks for the help guys. Ive currently got a 2.5" downpipe and straight through system (no cats at all) with a landrover td5 intercooler but i havnt got a clue whether the intercooler will stand even 250bhp?? Are the k&n apollo air filters any good or do you reckomend any others and also what fuel pressure regulator is the best to go for? The car it self weights about a ton so isnt to bad and goes well even with the standard cupra engine

I had the K&N Apollo on my 1.6 Leon 16v, and the Mrs got one on her Mk2 Ibiza 2.0 8v Gti Cupra Sport. They were both awesome, really does make it feel more lively, making a more responsive drive, and a more rewarding noise... the roar at the redline is awesome!!!!

Saying that, now i have my Leon Cupra, i opted for a Neuspeed CAI as it is designed for the car, similarly the Mrs put a Carbonio CAI on her Leon Cupra. We are both more than Happy with these too :) Spoilt for choice :funk:
 

Jessiecar

Guest
Sorry for the later reply, This is good reading for me at work :)

Apparently mine was running 231bhp before the uprated clutch and lightened flywheel were fitted so I am after getting mine on the rollers asap see what it is running.

If you see my thread:
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=137513

It might give you some ideas, its what my 180 model has had done to it and I am looking at a bigger turbo now I think :)
 

DodgyDave

Active Member
May 15, 2007
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Glasgow, Scotland
Got an early 1.8t Sport (X-plate, cupra at that time was the same but with leather & elecy seats) and it's had a fair amount of work done since i got it. almost 7 years & 90k miles ago (got it from new).

As standard it's 180bph, with just a remap it'll make 210/220, but power starts to drop off over 5k rpm due to the exhaust, get a good exhaust and it'll pull to 6k rpm :)

FMIC wont give mroe power, but will help to hold it when you are driving hard, if it's just 1/4 mile & standing starts it wont make that much difference but driving hard for more than a few mins and you'll notice it.

Exhaust, good air intake & a skilfull custom remap and it'll make 230 tops - but the wee K03s turbo will be running very hard at that.

Any more and it's a new/bigger turbo, the engines will take 300phb all day with no issues but if you are looking to go higher than that then you should start thinking about internals (OK so some engine codes will run a bit higher - figs are safety ones!!!).

Just now i'm running GTrs turbo, Forge FMIC, Miltek full & cone air intake (cant remember the make!!!), with some custom pipework and it's running arund 300bhp - from 3k5 to redline :)


Dave
 
Nov 2, 2004
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South Wales
Only the FMIC???:shrug:
So you wouldnt keep the CAI, 4Bar FPR, Exhaust, sports CAT and injectors!?!?!?!
Somehow i think you would :redface:

Admittedly the Downpipe and Map would be duplicated, but thats it, all the others are there as overkill to start so the step up to BT conversion is as small as possible (just Turbo/Mani/Downpipe/Remap required)

I will be trying to do it as i go to spread the financial burden of doing a BT conversion, just cant muster that sort of £££ in one go, lol


No.

Cai wouldnt fit a larger MAf without changing something.

Downpipe would be custom and the cat would be ditched.

I'd be using Revo Stage 3 which requires a 3bar. So 4 bar would be ditched.

And you dont change the injectors with standard turbo.


Very doubtfull you can make the step to BT without spending a lot of money and changing 75% of the stuff you already have.
 
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