Manufacturer Warranty Claim Warning

Speed-FReek

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I'm not sure if anyone else is already aware of this but I only just found out this morning after speaking to SEAT UK customer care. Oddly I cannot seem to find anything about this in any warranty terms and conditions so it would be good if anyone else who knows about this can pipe up.

I've been told that if you want to make a claim under warranty then it is the customer's responsibility to inform SEAT UK customer care of the issue and get a case reference number. A dealer is not required to do this for you. If you do not do this then any work which you believe is being carried out under warranty by a dealer will not be officially logged at SEAT, so if you then have any ongoing issues with a particular problem, you won't be covered for any further work on the issue once the warranty expiry date has passed.

This has all stemmed from an electrical problem I have with my car. It first went into the dealer at the beginning of January and 3 visits later the dealer has still been unable to resolve the issue. Wanting to use another dealer to continue the repairs, I rang SEAT UK to ask them what work has already been logged with them for the problem I had. To my surprise, they told me that while there was a warranty replacement part listed against my car that was related to the problem I was having, there was no official open warranty case. As far as I was concerned, everything just gets handled by the dealer but it seems not.

What this means is that SEAT UK don't have my electrical issue logged as ongoing warranty work. My warranty expires at the end of next week and SEAT UK have explicitly told me that in order for any work to be continued on this particular problem beyond the expiry date of the warranty (should the problem continue after that), then I need to log a new warranty claim case with SEAT UK and get the issue verified by a dealer under an already open case as being something that is covered under warranty. This all needs to be done before my warranty expires (i.e. within the next week). The fact that another dealer has already done some work for the issue under warranty is apparently irrelevant as it wasn't done under an open case.

Furthermore, I have been told that if I choose to use a different dealer to continue the work (which I want to do due to the failure of the original dealer to fix the problem after 3 attempts) then my warranty claim may well be rejected if a new dealer I choose to use believes that the original dealer has broken something while carrying out the original repair work. I will also be liable for the initial diagnostic charge by the dealer if they reject the warranty claim. The fact that diagnostics has already been done on the car by a different dealer for the same issue is apparently irrelevant because it wasn't done under an open warranty claim case.
 
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Speed-FReek

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I thought I'd better add to this. I got off the phone to SEAT UK an hour ago and after speaking with one of their service managers I was assured that if SEAT UK are already aware of an existing issue then even if it hadn't previously been logged under an open case, they wouldn't just leave a customer in the lurch come expiry of their warranty if the issue continued to persist.

This is somewhat more reassuring than the information I was given this morning but the issue does still remain that customers have to get warranty cases opened themselves by phoning SEAT UK rather than making an assumption that the dealer will be doing so as part of any warranty repair work they carry out.
 

Clazzer

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Good to know mate, but a very none customer focussed process it seems. I hope you get a resolution to your issue really soon.
 

Rusty2k

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Based on your previous posts I assume you're talking about the 1 year SEAT Approved Guarantee cover you get when you buy a used SEAT from a dealer?

If so, this is different from the SEAT warranty you get with a new car, and is essentially just an insurance policy provided and administered by Allianz on SEAT's behalf.

I got a booklet in the post a week or so after buying my second hand FR, and that had all the necessary details inside.

It stated I should report issues to any SEAT dealer, and that if a claim was approved then the quality of the repairs was entirely the responsibility of the repairing dealership.
 

Speed-FReek

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Good to know mate, but a very none customer focussed process it seems. I hope you get a resolution to your issue really soon.

It's booked in with another dealer next week. It does mean I have to risk the cost of any diagnostic charge in the event that SEAT UK reject any further warranty work if they suspect the previous dealer made the problem worse, but I refuse to use the dealer I was previously using and they won't be seeing me or my car again in a hurry.
 

Speed-FReek

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Jun 12, 2013
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Based on your previous posts I assume you're talking about the 1 year SEAT Approved Guarantee cover you get when you buy a used SEAT from a dealer?

If so, this is different from the SEAT warranty you get with a new car, and is essentially just an insurance policy provided and administered by Allianz on SEAT's behalf.

I got a booklet in the post a week or so after buying my second hand FR, and that had all the necessary details inside.

It stated I should report issues to any SEAT dealer, and that if a claim was approved then the quality of the repairs was entirely the responsibility of the repairing dealership.

No, my car is still covered under the original 3-year SEAT manufacturer warranty that came with the car from new (i.e. my car isn't 3 years old until the end of next week).
 

t121anf

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May 14, 2004
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What number are you rinning for Seat UK might need it next week should my dealer decide to be funny.
 

Speed-FReek

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What number are you rinning for Seat UK might need it next week should my dealer decide to be funny.

It's 0500-222222. 0500 numbers are free to call from landlines like 0800 numbers are but they're not free to call from mobiles. If you call from a mobile and want to be charged a standard local call rate (or make use of your inclusive / free monthly minutes) then use 03330-445815 instead.
 

betty_swollox

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Either way you'd be lucky for the dealer to do anything after the warranty has expired, regardless of when the case was raised, so I can't really see why you're so upset mate.

I wouldn't expect them to fix something for me after the car was out of warranty.


Hope you get it sorted tho.
 

Rusty2k

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No, my car is still covered under the original 3-year SEAT manufacturer warranty that came with the car from new (i.e. my car isn't 3 years old until the end of next week).

Ah, my mistake. For some reason I thought you had the used car guarantee cover.
 

Speed-FReek

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Either way you'd be lucky for the dealer to do anything after the warranty has expired, regardless of when the case was raised, so I can't really see why you're so upset mate.

I wouldn't expect them to fix something for me after the car was out of warranty.


Hope you get it sorted tho.

You appear to have missed the point. In my particular case the dealer has had the car 3 times since the beginning of January but on every occasion the car has come back with the fault not fixed. It's not my fault if the dealer isn't competent enough to be able to fix the problem, so I don't see why I should get penalised if the time it takes the dealer to resolve the problem ends up going past the warranty expiry date.

My warranty expires next week and I don't see why I should be left with a fault that occurred way before the warranty was near its expiry and which the dealer has taken 3 months to unsuccessfully try and fix. They need to get dealers who know what they are actually doing and can fix the fault within a reasonable timescale, which 3 months certainly isn't. Thus the reason I am now taking the car to a different dealer next week.

The sad fact is that warranty work doesn't bring in any profit for dealers so they aren't going to have any real inclination spending hours chasing down the cause of a problem. They are just going to do the bare minimum and focus their time on other customer bookings that are bringing them in a decent amount of cash.

It was very clear that on the last (3rd) visit I just got fobbed off with some BS because I found damning evidence against what the dealer say they did to my car which proved they had lied to me. I found this out the moment I got the car back home and the fault was still present after having been at the dealers for 2 full days (just sitting in their parking lot for most of that time it seems). It makes me wonder if they even bothered to do much (or anything) on the previous two visits either. It is because of this that I am now perilously close to my warranty expiry date with an existing problem that is still not fixed through no fault of my own.
 

Rob66

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Apr 25, 2004
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Good luck getting it sorted out mate.

When I had an airbag fault when the car was 5 years old so no warranty I went to the local dealer and they charged my the going rate think it was about £550. But I subsequently spoke to the supplying dealer about getting an Ibiza for the gf and a bit late but he said I should have gone to them, apparently even if the car is out of warranty if you can show a full SEAT service history and of course the dealer has the inclination often SEAT will cover the work or part of it as a good will gesture.
 

t121anf

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May 14, 2004
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As expected my dealer wasn't interested in fixing my problem, had a good excuse no approved body shop.

Details they gave don't match what I can find on google, trying Seat UK who keep telling me I've come through the wrong department and will transfer me to Seat......

Seems they are all useless unless you have your bank details to hand (would have said cheque book but who has one them these days).
 
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