Had my first service Ibiza 1.0 EcoTSI DSG

[KXL]

Well, some things I've learnt today.

The oil that goes in, is made by Texaco (I always thought they were using Castrol), according to the person doing the service. Car was on long life schedule, they have put it to normal 10k/1yr service schedule @ £189. Maybe brings in more £, as 2 year long life costs £210, and I only need do this later...

After 10500 miles, my car's brake pads are 5% worn, so 95% left. I hardly do any braking, usually coast, to a traffic light, then only brake.

My Fronts tyres have 6mm left, rears 7mm left (Bridgestone Potenza RE050A 215/40 R17s). At this rate, it will be 30,000 miles before I need new fronts, or if I rotate when the fronts are 5mm, I might have up to 50,000 miles before i need 4 new tyres. At this same point, just over 10k miles, my 2.0TDI Leon had 5mm and 7mm.

With the new oil, the engine seem smoother and less stuttery from low revs, but this could be placebo effect.

Dropped car off at 9:50 (appointment time was 10), by 11:45 it was done. Painless experience...

 

[RUM4MO]

I think that the contract to supply engine oil by Castrol was only for initial fill at factory, though I think that at renewal time of that contract Fuch won it back, though for Spain built cars it will be Repsol probably.
In every sales territory, there will be individual supply contracts to supply the dealerships, even in UK I think that regionally different supply contracts are placed, my Audi dealership in Scotland used to use Shell oils, though maybe another brand now - also where a garage group holds many franchises, they will pick an oil supplier that meets all their needs under one supply contract.
If your car is 12 months old and you have run 10.5K miles from new, then fixed time/miles servicing is what VW Group recommend - and most people consider that is best for engine life.
It is good to see that your SEAT dealer is offering fixed time slots for these standard tasks, my VW dealer tends to squirm out of handing out time slots, my Audi dealer needed to be reminded about what Audi said in their website about that, so gave in reluctantly! I still find paperwork is the hardest bit of these tasks and it holds you up, that is not understandable of acceptable!

 

[KXL]

If your car is 12 months old and you have run 10.5K miles from new, then fixed time/miles servicing is what VW Group recommend - and most people consider that is best for engine life.

I got my car in Dec 2016, and this is the first service since I took the car (I guess they did the long life one, just prior to delivery to me).

 

[camelspyyder]

If I have to put up with those exact OEM Bridgestone's for 50000 I'll be well upset!

Horrid, noisy with poor grip. Thanks a bunch SEAT.

 

[KXL]

If you think the RE050As are bad, you haven't had the pleasure of the (yes also Bridgestones) Turranza ER300 Ecopia I had the pleasure of on my previous Leon.

Saying that it seems new Ibizas come with Dunlop SportsMaxx or Nexens....Ahh my next car (non-Seat) will finally come with non-Bridgestone tyres.....they will come with Michelins. Either Energy Saver+ or Primacy 4. I did ask them i I could have CrossClimates, they said no way in hell (politely).

 

[KXL]

Anyone noticed that after a service your mpg may improve or get worse? Depending on which oil they put it? In my case it got worse!
I'm guessing I was going from Castrol long life oil from factory, to Texaco oil (non long life), and on the two weekend trips I usually undertake in low/no traffic, early Sun AM, and last Sun PM close to midnight i recorded approx 3 mpg lower (according to trip computer) to both. Before anyone say its the cold weather, I have done trips in colder weather with the old long life oil, and still showed consistent mpg on these trips. Or should I perhaps let the oil 'bed in' for another week or so?

 

[camelspyyder]

Could be winter fuel. I think the refineries changeover in October.

Or does an ECU reset at service mean the car has to relearn your driving style?

That said I have had cars back from the dealer in the old days running far worse than they did before the service. One Hyundai in particular was returned with the timing so far out, it's previously smooth running Mitsubishi 4 sounded like a bag of nails.

 

[RUM4MO]

You might find that the engine plants have moved on to something quite thin, like 0W-20 even, all in the interests of consumption > emissions. My 2011 S4 got treated to I think it was Shell 0W-30 once at the dealership, but I tend to use Mobil One 5W-30 ESP even for short servicing.

 

[RUM4MO]

I got my car in Dec 2016, and this is the first service since I took the car (I guess they did the long life one, just prior to delivery to me).

By the way, if you bought your car new back in Dec 2016, by default all engines/cars are set up at factory with longlife oils and prog'd for longlife servicing, it is up to the supplying dealer and ask the customer how they plan to use the car and at then get the workshop to alter the service reminder prog to fixed servicing if that is what suits your intended use of that car. My wife's Aug 2015 Polo 1.2TSI 110PS was bought along with a dealership 3 year service deal, which was good value for money, and that was delivered with fixed servicing as the deal covered 2 minor services and 1 major/inspection service. The smart money if you are running lowish miles is to always opt for fixed servicing if you intend to keep that car a few years. My wife's previous 2002 Polo 1.4 16V came new set for longlife servicing, but I replaced the oil and filter at the 10 month point guessing full well that the service warning would appear at roughly 18 months, which it did and so I handed it into my VW dealer for that one service during warranty. Same for my 2011 S4, it came set for longlife servicing which was crazy as it only ran about 8K miles a year, I left it on that and changed the oil and filter at the year point between service warnings and got the Audi dealer to do the scheduled services as it came with long warranty.

 

[KXL]

I now wonder if they had re-calibrated the ECU to get a more exact / realistic mpg figures. Eg...before service it was optimistic, and now, it's realistic...I will find out, if I can hit 400+ miles per tank, nothing much has changed then..

 

[RUM4MO]

If it turns out that it is something that your dealer did at service time, I would think that they have updated the engine’s software and as usual you have no right to know about this!

 

['& Son' managed]

Father is going to have a dilemma about this - the Leon has now done less than 3000 miles
in 8 months and almost certainly less than 5K by the time it's a year old next March.

I would happily change the oil/filter for him to delay a first service that the car almost certainly
won't need then, but he insists on playing by the book with these things in fear of compromising
the warranty.
I did buy him a 5 litre container of VAG-spec Shell HX8 when he got the Leon and can obtain a
genuine filter within a day, so he has the option if brave enough.

 

[RUM4MO]

As your father's car is still under warranty, I think that he is doing the right think, I think that factory fitted engine oils have a dye added to them, same thing for Professional versions of Castrol Edge, so if you saved him the cost of an oil and filter change minus the cost of you buying these parts and changing the oil, you might just end up in conflict with SEAT in the event of a failure that should be covered FOC, that tends to be the way that I play this game. In the case of my wife's August 2015 Polo 1.2TSI 110PS we opted for a 3 year/ 3service package when buying that car.

 

['& Son' managed]

No sign of dye looking at the dipstick on the car, but maybe it's not obvious in small amounts.
If it were mine at this mileage, I would be doing the oil change myself at about 10 months,
naturally using 'correct' VAG-spec fully synthetic oil, genuine SEAT/VAG oil filter and keeping
the receipts for them.
However, it's his car so his choice. He was used to paying for yearly services with his old car
so it won't hurt him.
He didn't bother with any service package for the Leon mostly because of the correctly
anticipated very light usage.

 

[RUM4MO]

You would only spot that dye under UV lighting, that is the only difference between some of these "better" oils normal and professional versions.

 

[KXL]

If it turns out that it is something that your dealer did at service time, I would think that they have updated the engine’s software and as usual you have no right to know about this!

I still got low 400s miles on a full tank (as normal), but previously it would show my tank's mpg as 46-47 on the trip computer (calculated by litres at the pump, this was within 1mpg correct), now it's showing 44-45 on the trip computer. Means this is now reading more pessimistically. WLTP software update?, or the car is just adapting from longlife to regular service oil? Real world mpg, nothing has changed though, in fact a little bit more economical from the new oil!

 

[RUM4MO]

Are you using the "Latest" or "Since refuelling" or "Long Term" fuel usage readings, Long Term rolls over after Xmiles or Ydays I think, keep missing logging the final "Long Term" before it resets, which is a bit annoying.

 

[KXL]

Since Refuel. Incidentally after the service I topped it up till 'click' and full, as to have an idea...but yea, I just think it's the computer confused with the new oil and not knowing what reading to give, or as you mentioned, maybe a software update.

 

[RUM4MO]

I'd think/hope that anything that the dealer has done during the service would not include recal'ng the way the fuel computer works/displays MPG, so it should be all up to what oil they used for that service, as in "weight" and any software updating they carried out.

Normally dealers job sheet does list all the parts used, so that should include oil "weight".

Edit:- reading your OP again, I see that it is short/normal service engine oil which probably means 5W-40 which is cheaper than the 5W-30 Longlife/Long service oil, and maybe cheaper than the original 0W-20 that was possibly loaded into it at the factory/engine plant.