GPF System (Gasoline Particulate Filter)

[AndyC567]

We have a Ibiza Xcellence 1.0 TSI (115) on order and have read on another VAG forum about GPF's being fitted to similar engines.

My question is, does the Ibiza 1.0 TSI (115) have one ??

On the forum they are saying that the idling rev speed of the 1.0L is usually 800 rpm but can rise to 1400rpm when the GPF is regenerating, and when the dealer was asked about it they were told to avoid short journeys of 3 miles or less !!

My concern is that our Ibiza will often do journeys of around 3 miles as my wife will use it for work.

Does anyone know if the Ibiza 1.0L (115) has a GPF, or has anyone experience of using this engine for regular short journeys ?

I would be extremely interest to know if this is going to be a problem for us.

Thanks

 

[mopsi]

Hey , all petrol engine are ffitted with GPF's from 2019 up . mine was build on January, and already have one, 1.5tsi and idle around 800rpm's. I drive around 6km to work ,done 3000 km and no problem ,

 

[gojoego]

Just read something in the manual about this...

"Particulate filter. The particulate filter eliminates most of the soot from the exhaust gas system. Under normal driving conditions, the filter cleans itself. The particulate filter is cleaned automatically without need for indication by the warning lamp .

This may be noticed because the engine idle speed increases and an odour may be detected. If automatic filter purification cannot be carried out (because only short trips are taken, for example), soot will accumulate on the filter and the particulate filter warning lamp will  switch on.

Facilitate the automatic filter cleaning process by driving in the following manner: ● Drive for approximately 15 minutes at a minimum speed of 60 km/h (37 mph) in 4th or 5th gear (automatic gearbox: S gear range). ●

Maintain the engine speed at approximately 2,000 rpm. The rise in temperature causes the soot on the filter to burn. On completion of the cleaning the warning lamp will switch off. If the warning lamp does not switch off, go immediately to a specialised workshop to rectify the problem."

This is a bit worrying as I'll be doing many small trips, rarely over 3-5 miles. Will see how it goes.

Honestly, in today's age where we should all be driving less, car manufacturers require you to drive more so to not damage the car. Ridiculous.

 

[Legojon]

Honestly, in today's age where we should all be driving less, car manufacturers require you to drive more so to not damage the car. Ridiculous.

Yeah, really annoying. I got rid of my diesel MK2 FR+ because of the DPF telling me how I should drive (every Thursday I had to drive a junction up and down the M6 for it to regenerate when all I wanted to do was go home and watch TV). I'd drive on past my turning or car park entrance because it was doing a regen. It was an absolute pain. So I switched to petrol. And now petrol is going to become as much of a pain.

 

[gojoego]

Yeah, really annoying. I got rid of my diesel MK2 FR+ because of the DPF telling me how I should drive (every Thursday I had to drive a junction up and down the M6 for it to regenerate when all I wanted to do was go home and watch TV). I'd drive on past my turning or car park entrance because it was doing a regen. It was an absolute pain. So I switched to petrol. And now petrol is going to become as much of a pain.

It does seem so. Looks like I'm going to have to do more miles than I planned just to not cost me more money in the long run. What about the planet!

 

[RUM4MO]

Anyone buying a new car and planning to almost always only drive very short distances, is either selfish, stupid or has not been keeping an eye on new developments.

Electric cars are available for that sort of use, I'm not saying that as a convert to EV, currently I've avoided the need to convert, remember none of this is new news, anyone using an older car for mainly short journeys has been doing more to promote the need for emissions control per mile/km than someone using cars in the way that they were designed for - and most of these short journey drivers will be doing all their driving in suburban areas and doing most the polluting.

 

[Legojon]

I don't know if tech has moved on since DPF days. But when I had my FR+ I drove 7 hours home from Cornwall. Pulled up on the driveway and it had just started a regen. I realise the reasons behind this and of course the car didn't know. But for about a fortnight, every long motorway journey seemed to miss the regen and I ended up with the DPF light on and having to take it out for a drive just to clear it.

 

[Simon Barker]

Does anyone know exactly when they were put into arona and Ibiza? Our Arona built September 2018 and my Ibiza Feb 2019. How can you tell? Is there anything to check?

 

[RUM4MO]

I think that both these cars will have had to be fitted with a GDF, remember that there was a rush to sell cars before the beginning of maybe September to flush new cars without GDF through the sale room, after that maybe dealers prereg'd cars to let them sell them while still sticking to the rules?
I think that you should find a can on the exhaust under the bonnet where the exhaust starts to run towards the rear of the car - that is just a sort of informed guess!!