FAO: k03s owners again! :)

[Cupra_Wayne]

Martin, standard dp here if you want to borrow it. You can have it tonight if you want!

 

[flashbsd]

you have pm

 

[TBCupraT]

May be well off the mark here...

Would logging the Pre and Post lambda probes highlight any issues with the cat or sensors.

Just thought it might help as changing the downpipe is not exactly an easy task.

 

[flashbsd]

bump, logs to follow.

I have fitted the SMIC, felt worse! was pulling the same maf figures with smic and original piping, FMIC back on now, pulls harder with it.

Could the maf readings be different as i dont have revo? maybe the way its mapped it doesnt need 160, its happy with 146? i also have a stock downpipe/cat (cheers wayne) so if i can kinda confirm the zorst is at fault, ill fit it 2moro.

Certainly very hot above the turbo area for ages after switching off. head is untouchable for ages too!

So i suppose my question is,

maybe im expecting too much from it? dont get me wrong its quick, but low RR, fact i cant pull on k03 cars with SMIC etc, and my low maf readings im assuming something is wrong.



All views apprichiated (not complaints!)

 

[m0rk]

basically spec for spec - mikes ibiza has more power....

I think the timing map ain't right - hence those 'big' CR's we've seen last weekend (would have been very high had it not been so cold & the IC soaked!)

I think that needs winding back, then the ECu won't pull everything else back

15g/s is about 10% so ~20bhp (very rough numbers)

 

[Martyn]

002 and 114 logs would help show if the car is pulling back....

 

[PhilW]

What martyn said above.

 

[flashbsd]

		RPM	Temperature	Load	Absolute Pres.		Load	Load	Load	Load		RPM	Load	Inj. On Time	Mass Flow
	TIME					TIME					TIME				
MARKER	STAMP	 /min	°C	%	 mbar	STAMP	%	%	%	%	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s
	0.53	3400	42	1.2	1320	0.84	191	189.6	104.5	76.1	0.24	3240	56.4	8.2	44.19
	1.43	4080	45	84.7	2250	1.74	185.7	183.6	156.4	89	1.14	3800	133.8	16.4	112.69
	2.34	4920	45	91.8	2100	2.64	163.2	161.2	145.9	92.5	2.04	4640	154.9	19.27	136.75
	3.24	5600	50	93.7	1980	3.54	150.4	149.3	130.1	92.9	2.94	5400	138.3	18.04	141.28
	4.14	5720	52	0	1720	4.44	161.7	159.7	8.3	0	3.84	6000	125.6	17.22	142.56

with smic on yesterday

Group A: '118 Group B: '114 Group C: '002

 

[Martyn]

That aint a log lol. How many samples a sec are you getting on 2 blocks?

It needs to be just 002 and 114 in 4th from 2k to 6/7k dude.

 

[Daz_gibbo]

5 Samples from 3.5 to 6k lol.
Try one at a time

 

[Martyn]

114 needs to be logged with something else as there is no rpm logged

 

[flashbsd]

oki will do it with the FMIC on today

Hope we can diagnoise the problem, i will get the map retarded if this is the cause

 

[flashbsd]

Group A:	'114				Group B:	'002				Group C:
	Load	Load	Load	Load		RPM	Load	Inj. On Time	Mass Flow	
TIME					TIME					TIME
STAMP	%	%	%	%	STAMP	 /min	%	 ms	 g/s	STAMP
0.23	188.7	188.1	98.5	44.3	0.53	3080	117.3	14.35	77.67	
0.83	189.5	188.1	137.6	82.7	1.14	3320	152.6	18.45	104.44	
1.43	190.2	189.6	163.2	82.4	1.74	3600	167.7	20.5	120.42	
2.04	190.2	189.6	169.2	85.1	2.43	3960	165.4	20.5	125.31	
2.74	188.7	186.6	161.7	85.9	3.03	4240	160.2	19.68	127.42	
3.34	185.7	182.1	158.6	86.7	3.64	4480	156.4	19.27	132	
3.94	179.7	174.6	155.6	87.1	4.24	4720	154.1	19.68	139.89	
4.54	172.2	165.7	154.9	86.3	4.84	4920	151.9	19.27	143.83	
5.14	165.4	158.2	149.6	85.1	5.44	5120	147.4	19.27	144.03	
5.74	161.7	155.2	144.4	84.3	6.04	5280	142.9	18.86	144.22	
6.34	159.4	153.7	140.6	81.2	6.64	5440	138.3	18.45	143.08	
6.94	156.4	149.3	136.1	78.4	7.24	5600	134.6	18.04	142.78	
7.54	154.1	147.8	133.1	74.9	7.84	5760	133.1	18.04	144.58	
8.14	148.9	144.8	130.8	72.9	8.44	5880	130.1	17.63	146.33	
8.74	145.1	143.3	130.1	0	9.04	5280	18	1.23	0	
9.34	175.9	174.6	5.3	0	9.64	4680	65.4	8.2	69.78	
9.94	184.2	183.6	13.5	0	10.24	4480	6.8	1.23	3.47	
10.53	185	185.1	7.5	0	10.84	4320	9	0	7.5

ok ive noticed that if i give it a good run about 5 mins after starting (once oil is up to temp) it pulls like a horse, if i try it after about 10 mins it pulls back in the CF's, i saw 1.8 CF max on the first run. now i see 4.5

Surely cant be to do iwht heat, will a retard of timing solve this? or wind back the actuator? not touched that yet

 

[Martyn]

I need the logs of when it's being **** mate, any chance you can warm it up and do it again? (send me the csv files when you're not so i can overlay the plot).

 

[ibizacupra]

still on warm up? (ie more fuel)

 

[flashbsd]

that is when it was **** mate, ill try and get one when it was good

bill: i always wait for the car to be off choke before setting off, e.g. wait for revs to settle to normal, oil was about 180f when it felt quick, anything after than feels bogged down.

emailed them to you martyn.

Funny thing is, the IC was cooler on the later runs which felt slower to me.

Could it come back to the CAT again? warming up? i have one here to test

 

[Martyn]

Above is the plot of the logs you e-mailed me dude. I've always been told that if you're car is 'happy' the 3 loads should more or less match like below...

It looks to me that the car is winding back the load due to the CFs or a build up of heat somewhere along the lines.

 

[flashbsd]

so should i adjust the actuator and see if that does anything?> back to the mark where it used to be another log will be on its way to you shortly, felt quick in that one. also did a CF log for you.

 

[Martyn]

I dont think the actuator is the cause of the fault dude but I can't see any reason why they would of wound it in/out.

The log you just sent me does look better so it could well be down to the over advanced timing.