EXEO Suggested Gear Changes

[David Smith]

Hi All,

I have just purchased a SEAT EXEO SE Tech 2.0 TDI. I would like to ask regarding the gear changes.

It appears the car is highly torqued, with gear changes around 1500-1750rpm. I have a six speed gearbox. I am finding it makes my car very thirsty for fuel, going through a half tank in 1 week.

My last car was a Skoda Octavia 1.9TDI Classic. I have been told by taxi drivers, the engine is technically the same. I made gear changes at the most economical point - 2000rpm. In the Octavia a half tank could last me a fortnight.

Please could someone enlighten me if the gear changes on the EXEO is correct or whether it had been remapped. Also, is there any way I can find out if my ECU is adaptive?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide

 

[David Smith]

Finally found what I was looking for in the user handbook. It says SEAT recommend changing gear at 2000rpm.

Now to ascertain whether the ECU had been remapped or if it is Adaptive....

 

[chriswales6]

The 1.9TDI is different to the 2.0TDI, if you had an early MK1 Octavia then the 2.0TDI in your Exeo is very different to your old engine.

Things have moved on and cars are now much safer. This means they weigh more and have more emissions equipment. Mid 50s MPG is easily enough to get with the 1.9. But it seems 45-50 MPG is more realistic with the Exeo.

There're a few things you can check: Tyre Pressures, Clean Air Filter, Brakes Binding.

 

[Jay1601]

If eco driving I can average between 58-60mpg

With a mix of driving usually average between 50-55mpg

Mapped/modified 2.0TDi

If you got the software/cable you can see how many times the ECU has been played with

 

[David Smith]

Over the weekend I've been driving the car and changing gear at 2000rpm certainly is helping the fuel economy. I think the brakes on the drivers side might be binding so will need to take a look at that. I also checked my tyres and although the grip is good B, the Fuel efficiency is poor E. May need to change them in the summer for better tyres. I've purchased a fuel and engine cleaner to help the engine out. Going to phone a SEAT dealer to check if my car needs an update. EA189 Diesel Action

 

[Bedlam]

Going to phone a SEAT dealer to check if my car needs an update. EA189 Diesel Action

Maybe this webpage may help https://www.seat.co.uk/owners/diesel-engines/vin-number.html

 

[wes]

Sorry, but do you really need to look at the rev counter every gear change? Can't be safe if you are constantly monitoring the instruments rather than driving.
There is no set rule of a certain rpm, for example up an incline in 5th at 2000rpm might use more fuel than in 4th, with less stress on engine.

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[David Smith]

Cheers. Apparently my car had never visited A SEAT garage since it was originally purchased direct from SEAT.

It'll make interesting reading when it's booked in for the EA189 update. I can ask if the ECU had been altered from factory settings....

 

[David Smith]

Agreed Wes, on an incline a lower gear is always the better option.

In my Octavia i listened for the sound of the engine as it reached 2000rpm, then changed gear then

 

[wes]

If the update you refer to is the vag emissions scandal, there are hundreds of reports that it will make the economy WORSE and less driveable.
I wouldn't bother.
Mine has been remapped, with the egr and the DPF still perfectly functional. I get an average of 50 mpg with a mixture of driving.

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[David Smith]

Hi, sorry for the late reply. I was reading the thread on the VAG update and I'm thoroughly convinced not to have it done... My car's acceleration feels flat enough as it is!!

I don't know if my car has already had the VAG update as the car doesn't have a servicing manual.

I was looking at this;

https://tdi-tuning.com/car/seat/exe...bft/crtd4-twin-channel-diesel-tuning-box-chip

as an alternative to remapping the ECU. Had anyone tried these before?

When I say flat, I mean when trying to overtake whether it be on a motorway or country road, there is no sudden burst of power. My old car, was a 2005 plate, but it had it in spades once it hit 2000rpm, as the turbo kicked in.

 

[David Smith]

Oh, update on the economy. So when I first fuelled the entire tank it says the range estimate was only 580 miles. I actually did 570 miles before fuelling up. A treatment of fuel cleaner later, and that brought the range estimate up to 760 miles. I now understand what you mean by adaptive ECU. Cleaner alone couldn't have gained me that many extra miles by itself. Fuelled up Xmas Eve adding Diesel Turbo injector cleaner. Hopefully it may show a further increase...

 

[David Smith]

Old car: Skoda Octavia PD 1.9TDI Classic 103bhp. 0-60 11.3s
New Car: Seat Exeo CR 2.0TDI SE Tech 141bhp. 0-60 9.2s
The EXEO is also lighter and smaller than the Octavia and yet...

 

[phil y]

The CR engines don't have the same 'thump' of torque as the old PD engines which can make them feel slower, although as the figures you quoted above show, in reality it should be considerably faster.

The ECU will adapt to your driving style, which will probably explain the increases in range if your driving style differs from the previous owner.