Does detailing remove chips.

sygee

Guest
Will getting my car detailed remove any stone chips as my bonnet has acquired quite a few in recent months due to a major road resurfacing projects around my area. Or is it maybe a case of getting the bonnet resprayed before I look into getting it detailed. I have seen some amazing results from getting a car detailed and because I owned my car for 2 months before I found this forum I have been stupidly using 1 bucket and a sponge to clean my black LCR so needless to say its covered in swirles. Can anyone recommend a detailer in Yorkshire(preferably Leeds area). Any advice and help graciousley welcomed.
 

HarveyGTI

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it will cover very light surface chips, fine scratches, swirls, fading etc but deep chips it wont

the bonnet will need to be resprayed for heavier chips, as remember detailing is only as good as how smooth the surface is...as in it cant compensate for great big chunks out of the paint, this would of course have to be filled...by a respray

get it resprayed first and then detail....however don't get it detailed immediatley after the respray as you need to leave a couple of weeks after the bonnet has been sprayed just to make sure the lacquer is completely dry and settled
 

Reg

Professional Detailer
Oct 10, 2005
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It won't cover any chips that have gone through clearcoat, so thats basically any chips at all.

Unless you speak to the detailer and ask them specifically if they will address the stone chips (which will mean filling with paint from a touch up pen, then most likely wet sanding the area level before machine polishing the sanding marks out).

However, I'd agree with Harvey in that if you are going to do it, get it painted first. Check with the bodyshop how the paint will be finished as to whether or not it needs to be left. New paint 'shouldn't' need anything other than the lightest of abrasives on it to make it perfect, but if its not baked to fully cure then you musn't put certain products, like a sealant, on it as this would affect the curing process.
 

sygee

Guest
Thanks for the info lads. If i remember right it was your detailing thread (REG) that made me think that it was possible to touch up the chips and then rub the areas down but I presume that was for a few minor chips whereas my bonnet is peppered. So the best bet is to get it resprayed leave it a month then get it detailed and mention to the detailer that the bonnet has been recently sprayed. If I take it to a decent bodyshop with an oven will that mean that the bonnet will be fully cured and ready to accept whatever products the detailer uses on the rest of the car or will I always have to treat my bonnet differently to the rest of the car because it isnt the same factory finish. ps where are you based REG.
 

geesus69

Guest
ayup bruvva!

from what i understand an oven is just used for speed, it wont make the paint cure any better than if it was left at room temp (someone correct me if im wrong)

but as far as i know as soon as the paint/lacquer is fully cured it can be detailed just like the rest of the car :) although i would mention it anyway to a detailer just so they are aware its not the same factory finish as the rest of the car

oh and whatever you do dont use that company who did my tailgate on the 106, great service at first but aftercare is :censored:
 

Reg

Professional Detailer
Oct 10, 2005
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Berkshire
Gary (Refined Reflections) is really the expert on paint, he used to own paint shops for many years. Different paints will hve different characteristics when cured, ie. some harder than others. My understanding is that will be down to both the make up of the paint, and if it was oven baked or not.

A 4 year old Porsche I did last week was a nightmare. It lives on the road in the centre of London, and gets knocked/keyed on a very regular basis. The whole car has seen paint at various times, work carried out by different bodyshops. In places, the paint was so rock hard I could barely make an impression on it. In other places, it was so soft a finishing polish was all that was needed to remove 100% of the defects. It made for a very long difficult day because pretty much every panel has to be treated as an unknown.

A detailer will know if a panel has been resprayed or not (but its always nice when someone tells you), my point was that if you get the car detailed a short time after the work has been done, what products we use will depend on the process the paint has been through. Paint that isn't fully baked/cured before it leaves the bodyshop needs to 'breathe', solvents in the paint escaping to allow it to cure. If you were to put a sealant over that new paint which prevents the solvents escaping, there could well be problems.