Cupra DSG or Manual

percycars

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Jan 26, 2014
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I am looking to buy a Cupra but the web site says the DSG is better on fuel is it or is the manual better
 

Ronnie Bagel

Monsoon Grey ST 290 DSG
Jul 15, 2016
158
1
Tamworth
There's loads on here about this topic and everyone will have their own opinion.

If I was you, I'd get an extended test drive in both and decide from that. I wouldn't purchase one over the other based on fuel economy. The difference will be negligible in the real world and will be based on your driving style. I've got the DSG and I love it. I wouldn't have a manual because I got bored using my left leg in traffic, plus the DSG has so many options to up the fun factor. I.e. Paddles, manual shifts with semi-auto and sport override. Changes are almost instant as well. Most car mag reviews prefer the manual, though. Pays your money, makes your choice, but probably don't make it on fuel economy. If that's the concern, get an FR 184 diesel!


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kazand

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Jun 6, 2010
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Brum
If fuel consumption is a priority then you are looking at the wrong car.
 

philmots

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Jan 29, 2017
141
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Leeds
I've gone manual with my 300 because it was substantially cheaper!

If DSG was the same price I think I would have ticked it, but I don't like how even in manual mode it changes up itself at the redline, my old Jag let you hit the limiter.

Also, for me this time, because I was coming from a 510bhp auto bruiser, I quite liked the idea of an old school manual hot hatch.
 

Ronnie Bagel

Monsoon Grey ST 290 DSG
Jul 15, 2016
158
1
Tamworth
To give you an idea, you'll get around 300 miles per tank of super unleaded for about £58. That's with driving sensibly, but with some in Sport and Cupra modes and a mix of all types of roads, inc. some crawling in traffic. I do 50 miles a day and works out for me at av. 29mpg. I expect you'll be spending around 50-75% extra compared to the 184. Depends on your mileage and if that's worth the extra. The Cupras are 'real world' rapid across the rev range.


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ps13sr20

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Aug 28, 2016
14
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I went for a manual 280 from my old 184fr, drove the DSG and manual preferred the driveablity of the manual - didnt like the low speed tip lag time of the 290 DSG (this annoyed me alot) I drove plus i'm old school and like doing manual heel and toe rather than letting the car do it for you ! i think i maybe on my own on that though in this day and age.

Rapid shifts of the DSG are nice although based on a couple of encounters i've had in the real world with DSG Cupra's do not generate a noticeable speed difference versus my manual.

as for fuel... as said above if MPG's are you top priority the Cupra is the wrong car, i normally get between ~30-40mpg on my way to work which is mainly dual carriage way / motorway stuck in traffic at ~50mph ish. my old FR was nearer the 55-60mpg mark.. for this this was acceptable. it is significantly less if you push on hard on a b-road though.

I got a Cupra as the 184 was boring as hell and wanted some fun for my daily machine and you can't put a price on smiles now can we :)
 

motty225

Polestar 2
Sep 11, 2008
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I went for a manual 280 from my old 184fr, drove the DSG and manual preferred the driveablity of the manual - didnt like the low speed tip lag time of the 290 DSG (this annoyed me alot) I drove plus i'm old school and like doing manual heel and toe rather than letting the car do it for you ! i think i maybe on my own on that though in this day and age.

Rapid shifts of the DSG are nice although based on a couple of encounters i've had in the real world with DSG Cupra's do not generate a noticeable speed difference versus my manual.

as for fuel... as said above if MPG's are you top priority the Cupra is the wrong car, i normally get between ~30-40mpg on my way to work which is mainly dual carriage way / motorway stuck in traffic at ~50mph ish. my old FR was nearer the 55-60mpg mark.. for this this was acceptable. it is significantly less if you push on hard on a b-road though.

I got a Cupra as the 184 was boring as hell and wanted some fun for my daily machine and you can't put a price on smiles now can we :)

You can't heel and toe the cupra, as soon as you touch the brake pedal it automatically cuts engine power
 

CupraRobX

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Jun 29, 2006
467
331
Surrey
I went for a manual 290 as it's probably one of the last opportunities I'll get to even have the option to spec it from new. I doubt we'll even have an option in a few years time...
 

Kane7

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Oct 23, 2016
416
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what he said.... heel and toe gear shifts in the 280 all the time and i've had no remapping etc.



That's odd because I swear in my 290 be it's map I heel and toed I always double clutch, even left foot brakeing while the foot is on the throttle to pitch the nose back in on sharp corners.

I'm 100% certain that seat have a demo of the left foot braking on a circuit vs a golf R


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Kane7

Active Member
Oct 23, 2016
416
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Revo remap stage 1 just waiting for stage 2 on the garage now. Don't have the issue.

Either or manual is so much more funner, I got bored of my last DSG but it's still mechanically brilliant


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CupraRobX

Active Member
Jun 29, 2006
467
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Surrey
Don't get me wrong you can physically do it, but there is no benefit, as stated the second you slightly touch the brake pedal, engine power is cut

The benefit I get is rev matching my gear changes as I brake and is mechanically more sympathetic that just banging through the 'box.
 

FR184

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Mar 27, 2014
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On previous vag cars I have owned there was a 2 or 3 second delay before pressing the brake cut power to the throttle iirc?
 
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Springrollz

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Jul 22, 2016
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London
The benefit I get is rev matching my gear changes as I brake and is mechanically more sympathetic that just banging through the 'box.
You're just rev matching which isn't the same as heel and toe. I assume you're only using the clutch and gas whereas heel and toe requires all 3 pedals to be engaged which is where the problem lies. As soon you press the brake pedal all power cuts off

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