Convenience Pack

tigerdan88

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So I bought my Ibiza FR 2 weeks ago and it doesn't come with a few things I'd like, found out it's missing the convenience pack, am I able to go to Seat and ask for it fitted and how much is it?

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Dan
 

YorkshirePud

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probably not unfortunately! if they are electrical accessories they would have been hooked up to the cars wiring loom as it was going through the production line. some bits you might be able to add on yourself.

you can always ask but ill guess the price for fitting the missing parts will be eye watering
 

tigerdan88

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probably not unfortunately! if they are electrical accessories they would have been hooked up to the cars wiring loom as it was going through the production line. some bits you might be able to add on yourself.

you can always ask but ill guess the price for fitting the missing parts will be eye watering

This makes no sense.

People buy cars from dealers all the time, they may select a car but then ask the dealer if they can have a certain pack put on, are you telling me the dealer (SEAT in this case) takes it back to spain to get it to go through the assembly again?

Plus SEAT have an online brochure selling packs :/ again would my car have to go back on the production line.
 

Speed-FReek

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Most of the stuff in the brochure that can be fitted after the car comes off the production line are usually a poor mans version of the factory fitted item.

I know this is an Ibiza forum but on the Leon Mk2, rear parking sensors and DRLs are a good example. They could be fitted afterwards but they're not the same as the factory items. They just get lashed into the vehicle wiring loom and don't work in the same integrated way as the factory fitted items.

You can of course try and retrofit and code original factory items to the car but no dealer will do this for you so you are either on your own with this, or you have to find an independent specialist who has the know how and is prepared to do it.

There's a reason that fully loaded used cars can demand a premium price :)
 
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tigerdan88

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Most of the stuff in the brochure that can be fitted after the car comes off the production line are usually a poor mans version of the factory fitted item.

I know this is an Ibiza forum but on the Leon Mk2, rear parking sensors and DRLs are a good example. They could be fitted afterwards but they're not the same as the factory items. They just get lashed into the vehicle wiring loom and don't work in the same integrated way as the factory fitted items.

You can of course try and retrofit and code original factory items to the car but no dealer will do this for you so you are either on your own with this, or you have to find an independent specialist who has the know how and is prepared to do it.

There's a reason that fully loaded used cars can demand a premium price :)

Firstly.....This is a MK5 forum...You talk absolute nonsense
 

RUM4MO

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Firstly I already corrected my post before you replied, and secondly no I don't :)

Charming reply for your attempt to help! (I am attempting to retro-fit front parking sensors with OPS to my S4 - using factory parts and other wiring!! I like a challenge?)

Anyway, to the OP, I have an Ibiza if that makes me any better placed to answer your question - which applies to Leon, Polo, S4 etc etc.

All car manufacturers print a list of factory fitted options, some of them can be fitted by the dealer prior to sale, but very few can be fitted at a cost that you would pay. All car manufacturers print a list of "looky likey" stuff that can be easily added to that car before or after sale new. The wiring harnesses of different builds of the same model are quite different, no freebies being handed out there for the dealer to retro-fit items cheaply to make the car like it was spec'd up with these items at factory. On modern cars there is also the problem with "component protection" which will involve a dealer to get round I'd think.
 
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RUM4MO

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I'd imagine adding the pack would be expensive especially through SEAT.

Nothing that a couple of grand of dosh would not sort out, eye watering stuff if that dealer was willing to even attempt some of it - that was just a guess based on £100+ an hour labour charges.
 

friddy93

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Yeah your probably right and for what it's worth I wouldnt bother. I can live without auto wipers haha
 

Speed-FReek

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I'd imagine adding the pack would be expensive especially through SEAT.

You also sometimes find that on models which don't have certain "packs" fitted, they have fitted lower spec control modules at the factory (i.e. stuff like the BCM and CAN Gateway etc.). This means that trying to retrofit the factory stuff not only means the items themselves (and recoding it), but also replacement of some of the control modules with higher spec ones. This is where it can get tricky because VAG have a ton of different modules with similar hardware part numbers some of which aren't compatible with each other so you need to find the exact right parts or learn from someone who has already done the same.
 

bcr5784

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Just to continue the killjoy theme. Some options like rain sensing wipers or sat nav have (for example) a different windscreen incorporating extra wires. So I wouldn't be optimistic...
 

Sonofzelda

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markm49uk

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Nice way to make friends on the forum! Once a car rolls off the production line then it will be cost prohibitive to then fit any packs. The packs are picked as part of the new car build process - the dealer can fit some lower specification 'options' as already mentioned but these are generally items like spoilers, reversing sensors(but not as good as the factory fit option), wheel upgrades etc.
 

YorkshirePud

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Yeah your probably right and for what it's worth I wouldnt bother. I can live without auto wipers haha

I've never been a fan of them myself, they always seem possessed! i was happy to see my second hand leon didnt come with them! sounds odd because if you buy second hand you do your best to find one with lots of bits on!
 

Sonofzelda

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I've never been a fan of them myself, they always seem possessed! i was happy to see my second hand leon didnt come with them! sounds odd because if you buy second hand you do your best to find one with lots of bits on!

This makes no sense.

People buy second hand cars all the time without checking the spec then go online to the (new car) configurator and expect after-market additions to cost the same as new-build options.

To suggest otherwise (like search for what you want or order from new) is nonsense.

It's quite reasonable to ask for help, rubbish sensible advice and then go all quiet when the penny finally drops. :redface:
 
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