Well, set ups I've had and how I rate them.
Initially I had the 323mm OEM Brembo discs and pads, this was a very good system but had its weaknesses when pushing on with very noticable fade.
Then I got the 323mm Brembo Drilled discs and OEM pads, these were better with fade than the OEM discs and never cracked.
Then I had an unknown 323mm disc with Pagid fast road pads, these were probably as good as the OEM set up with a little less fade.
Then due to this forum I bought the 323mm EBC Ultimax discs and DS2500 pads, these were blown up to be an awesome set up with people saying things like 'I've been getting whiplash from this set up' and 'bashed my head off the windscreen a few time with this set up'. So I was expecting something amazing. These never lived up to the hype they were given on here. I did like the set up, it looked good and stopped very well.
Now I have the Badger 5 2 piece 330mm rotors with light weight bells and DS2500 pads. This was only fitted the other day so do't have a huge amount to say about this set up yet. Unfortuneately due to a machineists mistakes I ended up with rotors that have the grooves facing away from the pads (the ones facing toward the pads will have more bite). Anyway, the first few times I stopped with this set up it was obvious that this was a very different kettle of fish to every other set up I have had. These initially were £650 but when replacing these once worn I will only have to buy the bolts and rotors so approx £300 for the two rotors.
When I tryed to bed these brakes in as per the DS2500 guide lines I was loosing traction with my winter tyres. so these were removed and my OEM LCR alloys with 225-40-18 Good Year Eagle F1 Asymmetrics were fitted. The rear were new and the fronts have about 6mm of tread left on them.
So back to the bedding in process again, this time a much better grip and boy do these things stop you. When speaking to the other guys who have this set up fitted before I got mine they were saying that you have to check your rear view mirror before brking hard and they weren't wrong. The tyres have managed to almost completely grip to allow the brakes to do there job but the suspension is now the weak link.
I'm getting quite serious nose dive but little or no squirming.
I have not fully bedded in this system yet so there is still a good bit of potential there so I will hold off in getting some fact and figures down on paper about stopping distances yet.
The brakes on the LCR is a vastly overlooked part. These Brembo Callipers are awesome when paired with the right discs and pads combo. I will be buying DS3000 for track days as I think to run DS2500 will be underselling this set ups true track potential.
I have had these different discs weighed.
The OEM Brembo 1 piece discs are 9.1 Kgs
The EBC Ultimax 1 piece discs were 8.6 Kgs (my old worn ones, would expect the new ones to be around 9 Kgs)
The 2 piece rotors made up with bolts to the bells are 6.1 Kgs
Anyone that knows about unsprung mass will see that this is a valueable weight saving. this will give better braking, handling and acceleration. Couple this with lighter alloys and light weight fly wheel and you should feel a difference and see this in better drag times and lap times.
I have read lots of posts about people on here wanting to 'upgrade' from the OEM set up. The only thing that needs upgrading about the OEM set up for day to day driving is have the Brembo discs grooved, fit DS2500 pads and better higher grade brake fluid.
IMO the EBC/CR discs are not an upgrade, they are a cheaper option that is okay, nothing more.
More people should take to opertunity to enhance the stopping potential of the LCR set up. You won't beat an EVO/Scooby on the twisties with the OEM suspension but with a 2 piece discs set up you will outbrake almost everything in the corners and that worth more than an extra 30 BHP to me.
This is not ment to be an advert for anyone or to slag off peoples set ups and thoughts. This is how I see it and many will not agree. Hopefully some people will help me and themselves out but joining in with this link below, no one has so far.
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=202447&highlight=brake+set+test
Initially I had the 323mm OEM Brembo discs and pads, this was a very good system but had its weaknesses when pushing on with very noticable fade.
Then I got the 323mm Brembo Drilled discs and OEM pads, these were better with fade than the OEM discs and never cracked.
Then I had an unknown 323mm disc with Pagid fast road pads, these were probably as good as the OEM set up with a little less fade.
Then due to this forum I bought the 323mm EBC Ultimax discs and DS2500 pads, these were blown up to be an awesome set up with people saying things like 'I've been getting whiplash from this set up' and 'bashed my head off the windscreen a few time with this set up'. So I was expecting something amazing. These never lived up to the hype they were given on here. I did like the set up, it looked good and stopped very well.
Now I have the Badger 5 2 piece 330mm rotors with light weight bells and DS2500 pads. This was only fitted the other day so do't have a huge amount to say about this set up yet. Unfortuneately due to a machineists mistakes I ended up with rotors that have the grooves facing away from the pads (the ones facing toward the pads will have more bite). Anyway, the first few times I stopped with this set up it was obvious that this was a very different kettle of fish to every other set up I have had. These initially were £650 but when replacing these once worn I will only have to buy the bolts and rotors so approx £300 for the two rotors.
When I tryed to bed these brakes in as per the DS2500 guide lines I was loosing traction with my winter tyres. so these were removed and my OEM LCR alloys with 225-40-18 Good Year Eagle F1 Asymmetrics were fitted. The rear were new and the fronts have about 6mm of tread left on them.
So back to the bedding in process again, this time a much better grip and boy do these things stop you. When speaking to the other guys who have this set up fitted before I got mine they were saying that you have to check your rear view mirror before brking hard and they weren't wrong. The tyres have managed to almost completely grip to allow the brakes to do there job but the suspension is now the weak link.
I'm getting quite serious nose dive but little or no squirming.
I have not fully bedded in this system yet so there is still a good bit of potential there so I will hold off in getting some fact and figures down on paper about stopping distances yet.
The brakes on the LCR is a vastly overlooked part. These Brembo Callipers are awesome when paired with the right discs and pads combo. I will be buying DS3000 for track days as I think to run DS2500 will be underselling this set ups true track potential.
I have had these different discs weighed.
The OEM Brembo 1 piece discs are 9.1 Kgs
The EBC Ultimax 1 piece discs were 8.6 Kgs (my old worn ones, would expect the new ones to be around 9 Kgs)
The 2 piece rotors made up with bolts to the bells are 6.1 Kgs
Anyone that knows about unsprung mass will see that this is a valueable weight saving. this will give better braking, handling and acceleration. Couple this with lighter alloys and light weight fly wheel and you should feel a difference and see this in better drag times and lap times.
I have read lots of posts about people on here wanting to 'upgrade' from the OEM set up. The only thing that needs upgrading about the OEM set up for day to day driving is have the Brembo discs grooved, fit DS2500 pads and better higher grade brake fluid.
IMO the EBC/CR discs are not an upgrade, they are a cheaper option that is okay, nothing more.
More people should take to opertunity to enhance the stopping potential of the LCR set up. You won't beat an EVO/Scooby on the twisties with the OEM suspension but with a 2 piece discs set up you will outbrake almost everything in the corners and that worth more than an extra 30 BHP to me.
This is not ment to be an advert for anyone or to slag off peoples set ups and thoughts. This is how I see it and many will not agree. Hopefully some people will help me and themselves out but joining in with this link below, no one has so far.
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=202447&highlight=brake+set+test
If I ever get time, I'll log the stopping time from a range of speeds with my Vag-Com and post it up in the right thread.
