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Altea XL - First Impressions

bobbycfc

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Jun 6, 2007
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Having had the car now for a few days, this is my first impressions. As my last car was a Scenic, this is the car I am comparing it to which may be the same for any potential buyers.

Got the car, brand new, with a saving of roughly £2500 off list price. The car is standard apart from the addition of the “integrated” TomTom 510 Sat Nav unit.

Engine
Engine is very good with strong pull right through the gears. As with most diesels it doesn’t do too much in first from standstill but then quickly makes up for lost time. Engine is definitely noisier than the Scenic dci I previously had, especially noticeable whilst idling. Seat have stopped putting “Noise Suppression Covers” on these models although they can be bought for about £60-£70. I have taken opinion on this and some people say it makes a difference, others say it doesn’t so I will see if the noise becomes intolerable over the next month or so. Too early to give opinions on mpg. Gearbox is very quick change, I always found the Scenic to be very notchy and “long” but the Seat is the complete opposite.

Cabin
The car is very well laid out with everything needed to hand. The audio is very good with a socket for Aux input. My model has the 3.5mm socket but I believe if ordering from the factory, you can select ipod or USB socket instead. Controls are on the steering wheel which is taking a bit of getting used to as with the Scenic the controls were fixed which meant that you always knew where they were! Speedometer increases in 20mph markings but these are even rather than odd, so the critical limits of 30, 50 and 70 aren’t as obvious to see. Speedometer seems to be a good 10% out in comparison with GPS speed.
Plenty of toys, all round electric windows, cruise control, split zone climate control etc. As I said, mine also has the Tom Tom which also works as Bluetooth handsfree for phone, both phone and navigation instructions come through the car speakers.
The Seat is taking some time to get used to and to get comfortable. It has strong side supports but I find my left hand side resting on the support rather than in it, but I am nowhere near the right hand support. Don’t know if this is due to position of pedals or whatever. The seat is definitely far more supportive and firm than the Scenics was. If you like driving with one arm resting, well the middle glovebox is too low for your arm to rest on and the drivers door doesn’t have a good “edge” to rest on, the door card slopes from the window.

Versatility
This car is nowhere near as versatile as the Scenic so if you need versatility and storage areas, then this isn’t the car for you. However, if like me, you have had 3 Scenics due to their great versatility and flexibility and then, on looking back, you realise that you very very rarely actually made use of them, then you should consider the Seat. The boot is huge and the Seat backs fold down to give you more space. However they don’t tumble forward or be removed like some MPVs (Scenic). The seats are split 70/30 but does have a middle pull down “armrest” with integrated cupholders. A point worth noting is that the seats are lower than in the Scenic and for me, this means that where my 9 year old son sat in the Scenic no problem, in the Seat due to the seat being lower then the seatbelt comes down very close to his neck. He could really do with a booster seat even though he is taller than the new regulations. Also, unlike the Scenic, there is the middle hump that runs through the floor making things less comfy for a middle passengerStorage is limited to 2 pull down flaps under the front seats (not drawers) and the centre armrest which has a split level in it, pens etc on top and then a couple of CDs in the bottom bit. There are no underfloor or underseat cubbies in the back like the Scenic does.
There are 3 auxiliary sockets, as well as the normal “cigarette lighter” in the front, there is one at rear of centre console for rear passengers to use and one in the boot as well.
The boot is big and has a space saver spare wheel. However it also had a squareish space next to the spare wheel that lies empty. Therefore if you apply any significant weight to the boot carpet then it bevels due to the gap underneath it! I am sure I will find something useful to put in there to prevent this (compressor, jump leads etc). Boot does not have a conventional parcel shelf which rises with the bootlid, instead it has a telescopic cover that pulls out and retracts. I actually prefer this especially if you are carrying something taller than the height of the shelf then it is easier to recline it rather than remove it altogether.

Car itself sits slightly lower than the Scenic.

My first impressions are that I like this very much and prefer it to the Scenic. I think my kids will prefer the Scenic due to its seating positions but their opinion is being ignored! The car has a few strange things that I don’t understand – it has a locking fuel cap which is attached by a cord to the “door”. This means than when you unlock it and take it off, it hangs down the side of your bodywork! Why not a release inside the car or in the case of the Scenic, the flap worked through the central locking?
Under the rearview mirror there are 2 red LEDs which shine down onto the centre console, presumably their only function is to create some ambience! At night the inside of the car is very very red. The audio buttons on the steering wheel light up as well but you also have the option to switch them off, why?
Oh, and one gripe I do have, the car only comes with one remote control key, the other is not a normal key. For a car that should be £17.5k, surely you would expect 2 remote control keys? That’s what my Skoda has.

Shortly will be taking it to France and back so will report back in a few weeks how living with the car is.
 

mxcupra

Guest
great review hope you enjoy it.

just one thing though-the petrol cap.

it used to bother me soooo much but discoverd from this forum that there are two notches on the side of the cap which enable it to sit nicely on the petrol cap flap. no more scratched paintwork.
 

bobbycfc

Active Member
Jun 6, 2007
200
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Motherwell
Went for the 2.0tdi (140) Stylance.

Should have realised about the fuel cap - its the same as my Skoda (though the connection had broken off!)
 

Altea Ego

Guest
great review hope you enjoy it.

just one thing though-the petrol cap.

it used to bother me soooo much but discoverd from this forum that there are two notches on the side of the cap which enable it to sit nicely on the petrol cap flap. no more scratched paintwork.

I already told him that on another forum,

Hi BobbyG - Guess who!:harhar:
 

bobbycfc

Active Member
Jun 6, 2007
200
1
Motherwell
By then I will be able to update you after my trip to France and back! What was it that you specified that made it factory order?
 

Altea Ego

Guest
Well orginally I specced it with Bluetooth and Black magic metalic paint. However bluetooth was deleted as the stupid tomtom pod thing uses up vital bits that the bluetooth uses, and as all altea's shipped to Uk have to have tomtom wiring, i cant have it. As its a lease purchase at huge discount - i cant have the tomtom either!

So i ended up with a factory order for just Black Magic metalic paint. Not happy.


Opps just noticed there is someone on here with a very similar handle :banghead2
 

bobbycfc

Active Member
Jun 6, 2007
200
1
Motherwell
So are you able to pay for the TT yourself and fit it and remove when finished with the car? I am quite impressed with it although sometimes it comes through the car speakers at the wrong time - was listening to a quiz going home last night on radio and kept missing the answers!
 

Altea Ego

Guest
you hit the nail on the head. I dont like the fact that the tomtom pre wire kit used in the SEAT mutes the radio, for the very reason you give. Plus I need the mute line free on the radio for a parrot ck3100 bluetooth kit I will get (as I dont think TT bluetooth phone integration is very good. )

Plus I already have TT v6 running on an ipaq.


So all in all, for me, this TomTom giveaway has been a real pain.
 

bobbycfc

Active Member
Jun 6, 2007
200
1
Motherwell
I find the phone bluetooth link up works fine. I had my concerns that the TT didn't have an external microphone (OK it does but the mount that Seat fit doesn't have a socket for it). Howver, although haven't had to use it too much so far, any time I have then the caller has heard me clearly.

I also have TT on a PDA but am impressed with the speed that TT locks to satellites compared to the PDA.
 

Altea Ego

Guest
Ah well I shall sort that stuff out when it arrives. Let me know how yours goes. -- Bet you like the reversing sensors!
 

bobbycfc

Active Member
Jun 6, 2007
200
1
Motherwell
Yeah they seem quite good so far though I usually have to turn the radio down to make sure I am hearing them clearly. Still don't fully trust them though!

Couple of other observations now are that the dashboard and doors are all very hard plastic - no "softness" or "sponging" that I had in the Scenic. Still trying to get used to the seating position although the drive to France will answer that one for me.
Definitely noisier than Scenic, both at speed and at idle. Did you order the engine cover? I asked the question on here and didn't get many replies but the ones I did said don't bother.
 

Altea Ego

Guest
Yes i did remark right up front that it has a very japanese hard plastics feel to it. Not unattractive tho.

Re the engine cover, yes I have one sourced. It might not be SEAT logoed tho. I think some pople forget to get the foam barrier as well. This is a seperate item that slips on top of the engine rocker cover, and meets the plastic engine shield. If you dont have it the noise escapes out of the side.
 

bobbycfc

Active Member
Jun 6, 2007
200
1
Motherwell
I see, have you got any links or references to that? As you know Seat quoted me £60 or £70 for a "noise suppression cover" but not sure exactly what that consists of?
 

Altea Ego

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I will drop you some piccies to it, have to be at the weekend. Suggest you get a copy of the vw workshop manuals off ebay - it has expanded parts catalogue -
 
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