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The PNs are in this lot somewhere. So glad I've got mine.
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=105541&highlight=861
The PNs are in this lot somewhere. So glad I've got mine.
It's not pointless. it doesn't really give you a smaller boot it gives you an extra boot.
it gives you a flat floor if you fold the seats down
It hides the bump if you've got a full size spare
It hides the sliding seat mechanism and lines up with boot lip to make the boot look neater
It can keep your sqashable/keep flat supermarket shopping separate from the heavy stuf that would squash it.
It's somewher to put the spare de-icer, tow-rope, jump leads, dog blanket, or whatever just in case stuff that a lot of have at least something of
When I got mine it reminded me of the bit in star wars where they hide under fake floor in the millenium falcon. Anything that makes me feel a little like Han Solo is good in my book.
I'm sure i'm not the only person who only needs a big boot three or four times a year. When thats the case the folding floor come out easier than the 2 piece parcel shelf.
If in a few years my next car is an Altea and it's no longer available I'm taking it with me.
it gives you a flat floor if you fold the seats down
It hides the bump if you've got a full size spare
It hides the sliding seat mechanism and lines up with boot lip to make the boot look neater
It can keep your sqashable/keep flat supermarket shopping separate from the heavy stuf that would squash it.
It's somewher to put the spare de-icer, tow-rope, jump leads, dog blanket, or whatever just in case stuff that a lot of have at least something of
When I got mine it reminded me of the bit in star wars where they hide under fake floor in the millenium falcon. Anything that makes me feel a little like Han Solo is good in my book.
I'm sure i'm not the only person who only needs a big boot three or four times a year. When thats the case the folding floor come out easier than the 2 piece parcel shelf.
If in a few years my next car is an Altea and it's no longer available I'm taking it with me.
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I think that TDI Lover may have said that it's pointless before and you should put it in your shed as I recall and a part number was requested by someone else for the shed but I might be mixing and matching threads 
... or those unmanageable folding boot covers that nicely tidy everything away that you keep for emergencies and it makes a flat level floor just inside. I'm sure if one had a labby they would have something to say about jumping a bit lower down, but then a labby might dig it up, hence why mother's labby doesn't get to travel in my tail gate.
I'm not too sure whether the folding piece will hold a 32 inch widescreen [glass] TV when I ship mine off. Taking it up could bend the spare wheel if the TV sat on top and no I don't want to take the spare wheel out. Here again if it held the weight that is where the flat floor just inside comes handy, you don't want to be dropping something too heavy down below then having to lift it up and over.
How much weight do we reckon that cover can take ?.
... or those unmanageable folding boot covers that nicely tidy everything away that you keep for emergencies and it makes a flat level floor just inside. I'm sure if one had a labby they would have something to say about jumping a bit lower down, but then a labby might dig it up, hence why mother's labby doesn't get to travel in my tail gate.I'm not too sure whether the folding piece will hold a 32 inch widescreen [glass] TV when I ship mine off. Taking it up could bend the spare wheel if the TV sat on top and no I don't want to take the spare wheel out. Here again if it held the weight that is where the flat floor just inside comes handy, you don't want to be dropping something too heavy down below then having to lift it up and over.
How much weight do we reckon that cover can take ?.
I've had about 6 crates of beer on top of the cover, and whilst it did flex a small amount it held up pretty well to the load. The hassle with the floor, is that you return to the car with a trolley load of beer from Costco, and have to decide if its worth trying to lift the false floor out, as leaving it in but in its folded state loses more area because it doesn't fold snugly against the back seats, plus you then have to decide what to do with the toolkit/jacket/triangle/boots/water bottle that are hiding under the floor in the first place.
I like the floor - the dog appreciates the level entry and exit route, and i appreciate having all of the above items under the dog, but out of reach of its teeth
Perhaps the folding floor would work with a dog that digs.... question is whether a Sony 32" widescreen TV = six crates of beer. Think we're talking about 40 kg of weight or something.
I agree I think the floor is good myself.
I agree I think the floor is good myself.
Well, in the Toledo at least with a space saving spare wheel the main floor is flat, no bumps or lumps anywhere so the false floor is not required to flatten the floor surface.
The main purpose as far as I could see is to kill road noise, as there is no noise reduction padding under the boot floor carpet.
If it was so uniquely useful, why do you think SEAT as dropping it ?
Maybe because like other 'novel' ideas which were introduced with the Altea / Toledo, SEAT are quietly dropping them as they are being recognised as no more than a crazed designer's quirky experiments which have no real use other than filling up marketing blurb in the brochures......eg: the puncture repair kit instead of a spare wheel (RIP thank GOD), that stupid reversing light under the bumper / behind the rear wheel...thankfully gone on the Altea XL, in fact the entire Toledo rear end which is quitely being replaced by the Altea XL itself.
I don't mind anyone saying that they have found a use for the false floor, I am just pointing out that for a lot of buyers, it is the full sized boot that attracts them in the first place, and it is that total volume that SEAT crows about in their blurb about how much luggage space you have in the boot. If someone wants to go out and buy an optional extra false floor to split this in two, so be it...but the majority probably dont want it and wont use it. For instance, you cant get a full size pram into the boot with shopping with the damned thing in.
Question: why dont other cars (including SEATs) have a false floor if it is so revolutionary ? Surely Ibiza buyers would be queueing up to purchase one ??
The main purpose as far as I could see is to kill road noise, as there is no noise reduction padding under the boot floor carpet.
If it was so uniquely useful, why do you think SEAT as dropping it ?
Maybe because like other 'novel' ideas which were introduced with the Altea / Toledo, SEAT are quietly dropping them as they are being recognised as no more than a crazed designer's quirky experiments which have no real use other than filling up marketing blurb in the brochures......eg: the puncture repair kit instead of a spare wheel (RIP thank GOD), that stupid reversing light under the bumper / behind the rear wheel...thankfully gone on the Altea XL, in fact the entire Toledo rear end which is quitely being replaced by the Altea XL itself.
I don't mind anyone saying that they have found a use for the false floor, I am just pointing out that for a lot of buyers, it is the full sized boot that attracts them in the first place, and it is that total volume that SEAT crows about in their blurb about how much luggage space you have in the boot. If someone wants to go out and buy an optional extra false floor to split this in two, so be it...but the majority probably dont want it and wont use it. For instance, you cant get a full size pram into the boot with shopping with the damned thing in.
Question: why dont other cars (including SEATs) have a false floor if it is so revolutionary ? Surely Ibiza buyers would be queueing up to purchase one ??
It looks to me as if the Toledo may have been designed not to have the two tier boot system, note we don't call it a false floor. If you don't have the panel in then you have a big drop into the boot itself. You slide your shopping in and out off the panel. I got a chiller which I use to hold my milk and frozen stuff, that I slide forwards to open. No floor and I wouldn't be sliding it forward and I'd be dragging the contents up and over the lip.
No two tier boot system and I would have a chiller plus a box of motoring accessories filling up the boot. This way the accessories go on the lower level. I admit I have to get the chiller box out to get at the lower level but I can cope.
The issue with boot size least on the Altea is that it doesn't go back far enough in some respects [length] not the height. I think most people don't have a need for height in the boot but length and width. Length it's a bit short of at time, but that's only when one is going away for a while with the car and stuffing it full.
There are two level boots in other non Seat cars, I've read about them, can't remember which. Think the issue is if Seat haven't thrown the two level boot in for free then people say they don't want it, whilst if they had it in the first place they would say it's great. My point is that the Altea was designed for it. Hence the lump that you get with the spare wheel if you take it out. I fit my accessory box of stuff around the lump.
Next time I'm at a deler I'll have to have a look to see how they have dealt with this lump aka the spare wheel if you drop the two tier cover. Seems Toledo owners don't have this issue if the wheel is sunk deeper. That isn't the case with Altea owners and full sized spare.
Oh and on that 32" TV I'm more than happy to slide it onto the upper boot structure [if it holds the weight] than lower it down and mawl it up, ditto the shopping. That's the beuty of the design as any older dog would tell you, that uses the tail gate.
No two tier boot system and I would have a chiller plus a box of motoring accessories filling up the boot. This way the accessories go on the lower level. I admit I have to get the chiller box out to get at the lower level but I can cope.
The issue with boot size least on the Altea is that it doesn't go back far enough in some respects [length] not the height. I think most people don't have a need for height in the boot but length and width. Length it's a bit short of at time, but that's only when one is going away for a while with the car and stuffing it full.
There are two level boots in other non Seat cars, I've read about them, can't remember which. Think the issue is if Seat haven't thrown the two level boot in for free then people say they don't want it, whilst if they had it in the first place they would say it's great. My point is that the Altea was designed for it. Hence the lump that you get with the spare wheel if you take it out. I fit my accessory box of stuff around the lump.
Next time I'm at a deler I'll have to have a look to see how they have dealt with this lump aka the spare wheel if you drop the two tier cover. Seems Toledo owners don't have this issue if the wheel is sunk deeper. That isn't the case with Altea owners and full sized spare.
Oh and on that 32" TV I'm more than happy to slide it onto the upper boot structure [if it holds the weight] than lower it down and mawl it up, ditto the shopping. That's the beuty of the design as any older dog would tell you, that uses the tail gate
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I don't really need the extra boot space and length all of the time aka an Altea XL. What they did in the Altea was to give rear passengers extra leg room at the cost of the boot length and that was more of an issue when the rear seats didn't move.
After thinking about fitting the rear sliding rails, I decided that I wouldn't use them. On those continental trips the wine bottles go under the front seats and the jam in the passenger foot well, plus other bottles plus the chocolates on top [Xmas] so they don't get crushed plus all the other goodies. You'd be at Auchans unloading the boot of the car, putting the bags on the floor, sliding the seats forward, putting everything in the back and getting your chocolates crushed. Too much hassle. That's the only time I have a need for a bigger car is twice a year.
After thinking about fitting the rear sliding rails, I decided that I wouldn't use them. On those continental trips the wine bottles go under the front seats and the jam in the passenger foot well, plus other bottles plus the chocolates on top [Xmas] so they don't get crushed plus all the other goodies. You'd be at Auchans unloading the boot of the car, putting the bags on the floor, sliding the seats forward, putting everything in the back and getting your chocolates crushed. Too much hassle. That's the only time I have a need for a bigger car is twice a year.
nickfrog
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I love the idea of the second boot and the shelf. Very clever. Genuinely.
Only thing is we used it for 2 weeks and found useless and then shoved it in the shed.
Still a great idea. Complete waste of time for our particular use of the car.
I am convinced they dropped it as standard because 95% of people in showrooms found the boot very small, not realising you could lift the shelf.
Only thing is we used it for 2 weeks and found useless and then shoved it in the shed.
Still a great idea. Complete waste of time for our particular use of the car.
I am convinced they dropped it as standard because 95% of people in showrooms found the boot very small, not realising you could lift the shelf.
I think only you and TDI_Luver has this view here and perhaps it has an ebay value, everybody else raves about it. If you are doing car boot sales I can see why you might take it out for normal day to day use it's great. Stuff you need to carry, but don't often use goes underneith, apart from that I have no wish to have a big bulge of my spare wheel as the floor plain of the car. For the Toledo this isn't an issue as one established from TDI_Luver, Altea it is with a full size wheel.
toejam237
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we have a dog...and the hidden boot space is great for his toys , water bottles, blankets, we have a couple of chairs in there as well...and its exellent for shoving your mucky wellies in it too...put the cover down and in the boot proper is the dog guard and bed...no problems loads of space.
would be hard to cram all that and the dog into a normal boot.
would be hard to cram all that and the dog into a normal boot.
dpat
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Does anyone know the height between the 'real' floor (the one over the spare wheel/repair kit) and the sliding upper floor. Is it anywhere near 11 inches - if it is my pram will fit under it and then everything else on top....
Went to look at an Altea today and my pram will only just fit length ways with rear seat moved fully forward (not leaving my daughter much leg room) or otherwise width way making the boot not as practical as I need. If the pram minus its wheels fit under the 'false' floor I am in business.
anyone know.....??? Thanks.
Went to look at an Altea today and my pram will only just fit length ways with rear seat moved fully forward (not leaving my daughter much leg room) or otherwise width way making the boot not as practical as I need. If the pram minus its wheels fit under the 'false' floor I am in business.
anyone know.....??? Thanks.
baldrick
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Magnus
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The depth below the floor is nowhere near 11in, more like 5 or 6.
FWIW I find the divider very useful. It makes the load area level (level with the back seatrests down too) with the opening which makes trips to the supermarket or tip quite a bit easier. The space underneath is handy for my tyre compressor, triangle, spare screenwash bottle (no warning light of impending runoutedness), plus the centre rear headrest lives in there. I think the floor can take quite a bit of weight too, if the lateral divider is in the right place.
topolino
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Measurements:
Forgetting the spare wheel you have a depth of 6" at the end closest to back (15.5 cm)
With wheel full sized (think mine is), 2" down from the cover (5 cm)
Forgetting the spare wheel you have a depth of 6" at the end closest to back (15.5 cm)
With wheel full sized (think mine is), 2" down from the cover (5 cm)
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