A wheel balancing conundrum

dmjw01

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Jul 28, 2005
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Woking, UK
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I had two new front tyres fitted on Wednesday. During the drive home, I heard a sudden clatter as something (I presumed a stone) rattled up around one of the wheel arches. I thought nothing of it at the time and continued my drive home (along horribly congested roads, so didn't get any speed up).

Next day, when I joined the motorway and reached 70, there was a pronounced wobble on the steering wheel. Clearly that clatter was actually a balance weight coming off one of the wheels.

No mystery so far. But here's something I don't understand...

The wobble was barely detectable with my foot off the pedal, but it became MUCH stronger when I put my foot down. I don't mean at higher speeds - I mean that the wobble was only really there when the engine was under load at the same speed. I've experienced badly balanced wheels before, but this was different. Normally it always happens at a particular road speed, regardless of how hard you're pressing the go-pedal.

In fact, my immediate thought was that my DMF had gone, so I tried dropping down a gear at the same speed, and the symptoms were the same - but with a different engine speed. So it probably wasn't my DMF.

Today I got the fitter to come back and re-balance the wheels. I described the symptoms to the fitter, and he said "hmmm... it doesn't sound like a wheel balance problem". But he did it anyway, and sure enough everything is nice and smooth now, so it really was the wheel balance.

But why did it only wobble when my foot went down on the power? Does the engine torque somehow alter the suspension geometry so that the balance of the wheel becomes more crucial?

The problem's all sorted now, but I'm really interested to understand it better. Can't really see why it should happen. Any ideas?
 

andycupra

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as when power is applied it takes up any slack in the drivetrain / suspension? when rolling the vibration is obsorbed in any play the car has?

or when on throttle the engine moves against its mounts so the vibration is conducted to the car more directly?
 

EdButler

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Apr 24, 2005
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Sheffield
Indeed your correct - This is simply because the accelleration is forcing the weight to the back of the car and the wobble will be more pronounced as it allows more play in the suspension strut as it has less weight pushing down on it.

As you also a pilot ;) I guess its like when you get wheel shimmy on a front wheel steered aircraft (if you fly an old Cessna for instance), you must use the elevator to make sure the front wheel has the correct weight applying on it.

Hope this helps, mine did exactly the same
 

dmjw01

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Jul 28, 2005
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Woking, UK
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Thanks for the replies, chaps!

Another possibility I guess might be due to unequal length drive shafts. I guess it's just an Ibiza quirk! :)


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Two things have always puzzled me about high-wing Cessnas: why are they so prone to nosewheel shimmy, and why does the fuel always seem to drain faster from one tank than the other? :shrug: :rolleyes:
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